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Tesla .. Missing the mark yet again
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<blockquote data-quote="RedVenom48" data-source="post: 15621815" data-attributes="member: 166576"><p>Its all a ****ing gimmick. Its a VERY niche market, hyped by Elon Musk who genuinely wants to believe he has created the path for electric only cars to be common place. Almost like Henry Ford streamlined mass production to give cheap cars to the masses. Problem is manufacturing costs, dealer set ups and RECHARGING.</p><p></p><p>Musk hasnt created a path to common elec car ownership. The rare earth materials required for the battery packs and drive controls probably cost Tesla a fortune. A fortune they cant pass on to the current and prospective buyers or risk sending them fleeing on the Nope Express. They also dont have enough of a market base to safely project those costs on realistic market demand either.</p><p></p><p>Ford, Toyota and GM all have established supply networks, engineering partnerships and extensive dealer networks. The number of electric only cars are TINY. TEENY TINY compared to more standard Hybrid models or the Volt which has an onboard battery recharger. They also have regular gas and diesel models that can balance the overall budget of electric/hybrid cars making them feasible to continue to build.</p><p></p><p>The dealer network is key. You have an issue with a Prius in the middle of Wyoming? Simply take it to a Toyota dealer and the problem will be addressed. Hell, you could have a Lexus hybrid have an issue and STILL get it serviced at Toyota. Might take longer for parts but it will get fixed. If you even somehow COULD get a Tesla to Wyoming, your ****ed until you get it towed back to a Tesla repair facility... wherever they might be.</p><p></p><p>Also, when it takes 4-8 hours to charge the Tesla for another 200 miles range, you lost 95% of people right there. Unless Im being paid by Tesla or someone to sit there for 4-8 hours while I get a charge, Im not even considering the car. Pull up to a gas pump. Refill in a few minutes and Im on my way. If its not that easy, the general public wants none of it. Tesla balance sheets are confirming that too.</p><p></p><p>Canary in the coal mine? Toyota Motor Corp sold ALL of its stock in Tesla. ALL of it. They know Tesla is on the downward slide. They know Musk might be a decent visionary, but has a terrible ability to keep his CURRENT business afloat. He's too busy trying to save the world or get SpaceX stable... to be successful in the automotive market you have to FOCUS on the automotive market until you know youre established.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedVenom48, post: 15621815, member: 166576"] Its all a ****ing gimmick. Its a VERY niche market, hyped by Elon Musk who genuinely wants to believe he has created the path for electric only cars to be common place. Almost like Henry Ford streamlined mass production to give cheap cars to the masses. Problem is manufacturing costs, dealer set ups and RECHARGING. Musk hasnt created a path to common elec car ownership. The rare earth materials required for the battery packs and drive controls probably cost Tesla a fortune. A fortune they cant pass on to the current and prospective buyers or risk sending them fleeing on the Nope Express. They also dont have enough of a market base to safely project those costs on realistic market demand either. Ford, Toyota and GM all have established supply networks, engineering partnerships and extensive dealer networks. The number of electric only cars are TINY. TEENY TINY compared to more standard Hybrid models or the Volt which has an onboard battery recharger. They also have regular gas and diesel models that can balance the overall budget of electric/hybrid cars making them feasible to continue to build. The dealer network is key. You have an issue with a Prius in the middle of Wyoming? Simply take it to a Toyota dealer and the problem will be addressed. Hell, you could have a Lexus hybrid have an issue and STILL get it serviced at Toyota. Might take longer for parts but it will get fixed. If you even somehow COULD get a Tesla to Wyoming, your ****ed until you get it towed back to a Tesla repair facility... wherever they might be. Also, when it takes 4-8 hours to charge the Tesla for another 200 miles range, you lost 95% of people right there. Unless Im being paid by Tesla or someone to sit there for 4-8 hours while I get a charge, Im not even considering the car. Pull up to a gas pump. Refill in a few minutes and Im on my way. If its not that easy, the general public wants none of it. Tesla balance sheets are confirming that too. Canary in the coal mine? Toyota Motor Corp sold ALL of its stock in Tesla. ALL of it. They know Tesla is on the downward slide. They know Musk might be a decent visionary, but has a terrible ability to keep his CURRENT business afloat. He's too busy trying to save the world or get SpaceX stable... to be successful in the automotive market you have to FOCUS on the automotive market until you know youre established. [/QUOTE]
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