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<blockquote data-quote="Jimmysidecarr" data-source="post: 10992896" data-attributes="member: 11681"><p>I'm not sure how you can allow an oil that is verifiable one of the absolute best oils you can buy anywhere, make you a non-believer in it's effectiveness because of a truck which had 282,000 miles of possibly unknown usage, and possibly unknown maintenance(if <strong>bought used</strong> by you). That's just not very logical or analytical thinking in this scenario, and certainly is not very fair. </p><p></p><p>A poorly maintained truck that this one most likely was, would have probably started smoking with any high quality synthetic oil, once all the coking caked around the rings and pistons started to be cleaned off. It just happens a little faster with Royal Purple and a few others. </p><p>I'm not trying to say that anyone is a bad person, but physics is physics. I suspect this truck was purchased used with bunch of miles already on it. So it was most likely someone else who did (or didn't do) the bulk of the maintenance. No oil on the planet can remove metal from rings , pistons or cylinder bores, but dirt laden, used up oil can have a mighty hard time preventing wear and it will allow deposits to build up.</p><p>Lots of the higher quality synthetic oils will de-coke and clean up junked up, poorly cared for engines. Unfortunately the new owners of said vehicles very shortly after doing the right thing for their engines, find out that they have bought a poorly cared for vehicle. Is it the oils fault? I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Royal Purple, however there is a high probability it would have happened with any number of high quality oils once regular maintenance was introduced to this high mile truck.</p><p></p><p>If it was the oils fault there would be literally 10s of thousands of vehicles smoking all across the world, and a huge out cry against us. Cleaning an engine and keeping it clean is normally thought of as a very good thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are certain characteristics about group V base stocks that makes them very desirable to use in a very high quality oil, but this is also true of group IV base stocks. There are also certain characteristics of each when alone, that are not that desirable. That's why we use both. It allows us to formulate a better overall product, since both have some very beneficial properties. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See? Someone else has observed this happen before as well. If coking, sludge deposits or other residue is built up and adding diameter to items that are worn down, when the junk gets removed sometimes leaks can increase.</p><p>However if a very high mileage vehicle has been very well maintained,(and many are) this transition to synthetics will not be a traumatic, leaky and smokey adventure. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a whole lot of truth contained in <span style="color: Red">that</span> statement.</p><p></p><p><strong>The oils of today, even the mediocre ones are far superior to the oils of the 70s and earlier. If you take care of your vehicles even with mediocre oils, you can still get outstanding life out of them. Not only are the mediocre oils much better, but the designs are much better too. The last flat tappet lifter cams that Ford used I think was the 1995 351W trucks. All the 5.0 V8s in cars were roller lifters and double roller timing chain as early as 86.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>There are some people out there who very much want oils in their everyday cars and their VERY SPECIAL cars, that are better than just good enough or even very good. For them there is a small handful of truly excellent oils available, the choices have never been better.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Then there are actually a whole lot of very good oils available that even people who are not particularly obsessed with keeping up with current oil technologies can stumble upon and have very good results with proper maintenance.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Then fortunately there are a fairly large amount of folks like me, who want to use the best available. Sometimes the reasons are to gain a competitive advantage. Sometimes it's to solve a particularly troublesome lubrication issue on a very expensive piece of equipment.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Sometimes it's simply taking the very best care, of a vehicle or project that you have put your hard fought blood sweat and tears into. This last one is often accompanied by a significant dose of pride.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jimmysidecarr, post: 10992896, member: 11681"] I'm not sure how you can allow an oil that is verifiable one of the absolute best oils you can buy anywhere, make you a non-believer in it's effectiveness because of a truck which had 282,000 miles of possibly unknown usage, and possibly unknown maintenance(if [B]bought used[/B] by you). That's just not very logical or analytical thinking in this scenario, and certainly is not very fair. A poorly maintained truck that this one most likely was, would have probably started smoking with any high quality synthetic oil, once all the coking caked around the rings and pistons started to be cleaned off. It just happens a little faster with Royal Purple and a few others. I'm not trying to say that anyone is a bad person, but physics is physics. I suspect this truck was purchased used with bunch of miles already on it. So it was most likely someone else who did (or didn't do) the bulk of the maintenance. No oil on the planet can remove metal from rings , pistons or cylinder bores, but dirt laden, used up oil can have a mighty hard time preventing wear and it will allow deposits to build up. Lots of the higher quality synthetic oils will de-coke and clean up junked up, poorly cared for engines. Unfortunately the new owners of said vehicles very shortly after doing the right thing for their engines, find out that they have bought a poorly cared for vehicle. Is it the oils fault? I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Royal Purple, however there is a high probability it would have happened with any number of high quality oils once regular maintenance was introduced to this high mile truck. If it was the oils fault there would be literally 10s of thousands of vehicles smoking all across the world, and a huge out cry against us. Cleaning an engine and keeping it clean is normally thought of as a very good thing. There are certain characteristics about group V base stocks that makes them very desirable to use in a very high quality oil, but this is also true of group IV base stocks. There are also certain characteristics of each when alone, that are not that desirable. That's why we use both. It allows us to formulate a better overall product, since both have some very beneficial properties. See? Someone else has observed this happen before as well. If coking, sludge deposits or other residue is built up and adding diameter to items that are worn down, when the junk gets removed sometimes leaks can increase. However if a very high mileage vehicle has been very well maintained,(and many are) this transition to synthetics will not be a traumatic, leaky and smokey adventure. There is a whole lot of truth contained in [COLOR="Red"]that[/COLOR] statement. [B]The oils of today, even the mediocre ones are far superior to the oils of the 70s and earlier. If you take care of your vehicles even with mediocre oils, you can still get outstanding life out of them. Not only are the mediocre oils much better, but the designs are much better too. The last flat tappet lifter cams that Ford used I think was the 1995 351W trucks. All the 5.0 V8s in cars were roller lifters and double roller timing chain as early as 86. There are some people out there who very much want oils in their everyday cars and their VERY SPECIAL cars, that are better than just good enough or even very good. For them there is a small handful of truly excellent oils available, the choices have never been better. Then there are actually a whole lot of very good oils available that even people who are not particularly obsessed with keeping up with current oil technologies can stumble upon and have very good results with proper maintenance. Then fortunately there are a fairly large amount of folks like me, who want to use the best available. Sometimes the reasons are to gain a competitive advantage. Sometimes it's to solve a particularly troublesome lubrication issue on a very expensive piece of equipment. Sometimes it's simply taking the very best care, of a vehicle or project that you have put your hard fought blood sweat and tears into. This last one is often accompanied by a significant dose of pride.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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