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I forgot all about the float that insurance companies carry and invest before paying out claims. Imagine now if there was some sort of large natural disaster....

I saw B of A took in 15 billion dollars of new deposits the past few days. Not really much of a lifeline if they need it though.

Might be one of the reasons Wind and Hail coverage has doubled year over year here.
 

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Might be one of the reasons Wind and Hail coverage has doubled year over year here.

My car insurance has gone up almost 50% since inflation took off.

Homeowners not quite as much.

But car prices and repair prices have skyrocketed.

El Paso is in the top 10 nationwide for home price increase.

My agent is my buddies GF but I haven’t even bothered to ask if there’s anything we can do to lower it.

Coworker tried shopping around recently and expected to find lower rates for a new policy as usual but the difference was negligible.


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My car insurance has gone up almost 50% since inflation took off.

Homeowners not quite as much.

But car prices and repair prices have skyrocketed.

El Paso is in the top 10 nationwide for home price increase.

My agent is my buddies GF but I haven’t even bothered to ask if there’s anything we can do to lower it.

Coworker tried shopping around recently and expected to find lower rates for a new policy as usual but the difference was negligible.


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Got a friend in Hobbs with a Mexican wife. They were looking to buy a house out there in El Paso. Saw the prices said hell no.
 

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Premiums are insurance co "deposits." As the economy softens policies will lapse.
I saw B of A took in 15 billion dollars of new deposits the past few days. Not really much of a lifeline if they need it though.

From BAC's 4Q transcript. They lost $82b in deposits 4Q2022/4Q2021.
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OT, love how Microsoft goes up 17 points right after I sell it.

Crazy.

My homeowners only went up 500 this past year but the cheapest competitor was double the total 2022 amount. Can't wait till my current one leaves FL...
 

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Premiums are insurance co "deposits." As the economy softens policies will lapse.


From BAC's 4Q transcript. They lost $82b in deposits 4Q2022/4Q2021.
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Policies lapsing in the life insurance arenas you mean? For sure. I don't know if they'll lapse much in the auto and property arenas since those are required by law, although people might pare back their existing coverage some. I know people cutting back on their medical insurance though. And with companies laying people off, once that COBRA coverage runs out many just won't even carry insurance anymore if they can't swing the premiums.

I'm responsible for some of B of A's dwindling deposits since last year I transferred money from my accounts into high yield savings accounts since B of A wasn't paying shit for interest. I wonder if they are rethinking that decision now about low interest rates for account holders.
 

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Policies lapsing in the life insurance arenas you mean? For sure. I don't know if they'll lapse much in the auto and property arenas since those are required by law, although people might pare back their existing coverage some. I know people cutting back on their medical insurance though. And with companies laying people off, once that COBRA coverage runs out many just won't even carry insurance anymore if they can't swing the premiums.

I'm responsible for some of B of A's dwindling deposits since last year I transferred money from my accounts into high yield savings accounts since B of A wasn't paying shit for interest. I wonder if they are rethinking that decision now about low interest rates for account holders.

If we enter a recession:

People lose their jobs. They get their health insurance through their employer so medical premium will fall.

They will default on auto loans and autos will be repossessed. No need to insure an auto you dont own.

New auto purchase will slow. No need to insure a car that you dont buy.

People will default on mortgages. No need to insure a house you dont own.

Property values will decrease. So the average insured will need less insurance.

Delinquencies will increase. This will apply to insurance premiums as well.

People will surrender life policies.

etc. etc.

It is a convoluted and technical discussion but their balance sheets are ****ed for a few reasons. Personally I am more worried about insurance cos than I am banks.
 

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If we enter a recession:

People lose their jobs. They get their health insurance through their employer so medical premium will fall.

They will default on auto loans and autos will be repossessed. No need to insure an auto you dont own.

New auto purchase will slow. No need to insure a car that you dont buy.

People will default on mortgages. No need to insure a house you dont own.

Property values will decrease. So the average insured will need less insurance.

Delinquencies will increase. This will apply to insurance premiums as well.

People will surrender life policies.

etc. etc.

It is a convoluted and technical discussion but their balance sheets are ****ed for a few reasons. Personally I am more worried about insurance cos than I am banks.
You sound as if you believe that if we enter a recession it will be a hard one and not a soft one.
 

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If we enter a recession:

People lose their jobs. They get their health insurance through their employer so medical premium will fall.

They will default on auto loans and autos will be repossessed. No need to insure an auto you dont own.

New auto purchase will slow. No need to insure a car that you dont buy.

People will default on mortgages. No need to insure a house you dont own.

Property values will decrease. So the average insured will need less insurance.

Delinquencies will increase. This will apply to insurance premiums as well.

People will surrender life policies.

etc. etc.

It is a convoluted and technical discussion but their balance sheets are ****ed for a few reasons. Personally I am more worried about insurance cos than I am banks.

Ooooooooo who’s ready to invest on those foreclosures???

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