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  1. 03cobra#694

    03cobra#694 Want to play a game? Staff Member Super Moderator

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    This mess is still going? I guess I should go back through it. Any SD potential? Never had crow, is it any good?
     
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    Sinister04L RIP Kane Established Member

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    Exactly. When piling on all the incentives without breaking them down they usually include 1st time home buyer, recent college grad, some type of association member, etc etc. Several things that will never all apply to 1 person.

    And who the **** doesn't know what OTD means?
     
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  3. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    Its the internet. You can make up whatever magic number you want. But it doesnt fly on SVTP.
     
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  4. D1984

    D1984 911 hunting Established Member

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    maybe motor trend came up with $58k OTD on their dyno
     
  5. tt335ci03cobra

    tt335ci03cobra Well-Known Member Established Member

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    $58k otd should buy ya a Supra. I don’t see it buying a 10 second car new off the showroom though.

    There’s that 700hp supercharged mustang deal for $45k from some dealer. I don’t know it runs 10’s unless it’s on a tire though.
     
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    Smooth Well Seasoned Established Member

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    OP.
     
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    tones_RS3 I like members members. Premium Member Established Member

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  8. Purvis

    Purvis VMP TVS Power Established Member

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    its was always stated as 58k. I should have said plus tax and tags. Ive restated that a few times.

    a 58k 5 passenger car with a full warranty that does 10.2 on a DR is pretty good, which is the point of this thread.
    A good option to have, compared to the overpriced GT500 which cost 90-110k, and will be lucky to do Mid 10’s. Plus you can only fit 2 and a half people in it. Which to a family guy like me, makes the new GT500 semi un useable.

    Those of you taking the GT500 to a race track (not the the drag strips) can make a solid case for the GT500. It will also be good for put putn around town.

    Evan smiths times i personally take with a grain of salt. I weight everyone elese’s times (hi ten low 11’s),as being more representative of what I could personally do with the car. I have tried to duplicate his times with 5.0s and never could come close, Im not doubting his credibility, just my ability to match what the master can do.
     
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  9. ON D BIT

    ON D BIT Finish First Established Member

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    You always stated $58k otd. When I questioned it and said otd costs means you paid $52/53k on the sale price you never once corrected your original statement.

    You paid about $64k otd with California taxes and fees. This is much more believable and still a great price! I don’t think you can find a normal HC new for that price in ca.
     
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    *secret squirrel pricing and not OTD

    *and on 17 inch drag wheel and with crazy DA
     
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    Just wait til someone like yourself with experience puts a base 500 down Atco in neg DA with just a DR.
    Something tells me your RE will not look superior.
    It’s impressive and I love everything fast, and both represent a great value with potential for a lot more than 10.2.
    Carry on.
    -J
     
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    vortecd Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Not sure why anyone would bother going to the track without the right tires. Kinda like driving a car in the snow with summer tires
     
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    Because stock tires are the common denominator. I do a lot of road course driving, and I agree with you, but the second you change a tire you introduce variables.

    You can see all the nonsense just in this thread: Well, X car would beat Y car if it had a radial. Oh, well Y car would beat X car if it had a slick... we could what if all day, but on stock tires, it is what it is and that's all there is to it.

    If you change tires (or anything for that matter), all you can say is that in one specific case, one specific car, went faster than another specific car, in this specific situation, and no one can be bothered to quantify a statement that heavily.
     
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    Cliffs?

    OP doesn't know that OTD stands for "Out the Door"
    OP claims stock is a 17" Drag tire in negative DA and very cool weather

    So it is easy to comprehend

    OP stated multiple times 58K OTD. Not accurate. Plus, he keeps saying "58K OTD for a stock 10 second car" Not true, his car is not stock for christ sake.

    If you literally took your "58K OTD" Redeye to the track right off the showroom without touching a thing and ran a low 10, then and ONLY THEN would it be a stock run.

    Does this make sense now? I've dumbed it down as much as I can for you OP.
     
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    Yep, and the biggest variable once things change is driver skill, therefore stock has to be on oem tire or there is just no point in the debate.
     
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    03Sssnake TK-421 Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    LOL...this thread...

     
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    LMAO!
     
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  18. Purvis

    Purvis VMP TVS Power Established Member

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    No. I have stated 58K every time I have referred to the price. And have clarified a few times that I should have stated "plus tax and tags" (which is what most dealers (in the wild) will say. But a few forum goers insist on their own logic, and they are entitled to their opinion. And that's fine. I don't really care about that.

    What I do find interesting, Is that a few continue to harp on whether my price include tax and tags, but the GT500, with its crazy pricing breakdown, is no problemo.. *(below is not including tax and tags)

    Let see, lets option one out to the bare minumum -
    +70300 base price
    +1095 D&D
    +2600 gas guzzler
    +3000 the basic tech pack 67T
    +1375 Just to get vinyl stripes.. When I bought my 08, these were included I believe. So you can add that right in to the bottom line.
    and 10 k for painted stripes. Which is even expensive by supercar standards. That's pretty ridiculous.
    base seats
    $78,370 (plus tax and tags) for a pretty lean and mean GT500 without all the foofy useless options like the $18500 carbon fiber pack. or the cosmetic but useless $1000 carbon fiber interior trim pack. Lets not even take the Recaros @ 1595, to keep the price down.

    $78,370 (Its important to note that many dealers will not even let you order a GT500 that is optioned with this few options) So Good luck finding one, or being permitted to put your order through in this fassion.
    10k dealer markup -(And this in on the low end. many dealers are asking for more now )
    $88,370.00 OTD plus tax and tags (and you will lose that 10 k the minute you drive off the lot).

    So comparing that to my RedEye, which come pretty well equipped in base form, its ROUGHLY 20k more before you factor in the markups.
    and then ROUGHLY 30k more (and up) after the ridiculous Dealer markups.. (BTW - IMO, If you are paying 1k in markup on this GT500, ( you are paying TOO Much) Don't listen to the BS.

    So in the real world, not going crazy with the options, you're looking at about a 30k difference between the two. The delta being about the amount of money it takes right now, to buy a used 07-10 GT500 with low miles.

    This roughly 20-30k is an enormous amount of money to someone actually buying the car on a working person's salary. If you are Old and Rich, have an inheritance, or your parents are buying it for you then, this conversation is irrelevant and does not apply to you.
     
  19. Purvis

    Purvis VMP TVS Power Established Member

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    The GT500 has a lot to prove. There are TONS of Redeyes running these numbers NOW with room for 5. 1-2 years later.. the GT500 may decide to finally show up. Well, welcome to the party - better late than never.. Bring it to the track and lets have some fun! :)
     
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