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  1. svtfocus2cobra

    svtfocus2cobra Opprimere, Velocitas, Violentia Operandi Established Member

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    I see that as the most likely outcome. I trust my buddy at Ford when he says it looks great which is what the dealers relayed as well when they were shown the new Bronco.
     
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    I really hope so
     
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    The back looks weird like that... but it's got to be because it is removable,,,like old Broncos
     
  4. SID297

    SID297 OWNER/ADMIN Staff Member Administrator

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    Just pray we don't end up with the Blue Oval version of the FJ-Cruiser.
     
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    GTSpartan Yield right!!!! Established Member

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    I think that’s exactly what it will be.

    They won’t dare go toe-to-toe with the Wrangler.


    Not to worry. It’ll be infinitely better than the new Blazer!
     
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    Wish we got the Jimmy. These are awesome.
     
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    SID297 OWNER/ADMIN Staff Member Administrator

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    Is that a newer version of the Samurai?
     
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    Essentially!
     
  9. 68fastback

    68fastback Need DOHC Alloy Big Block Established Member

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    Ford did state at one point (almost 2 years ago now) that there will be two versions of the new Bronco, the implication being a 4-door and a 2-door version.

    This is a vehicle that ships in a matter or months so it has already been fully tested for AT LEAST 1.5-2 years in its FINAL mechanical form so that mule pic may be an OLD mule being used to evaluate some narrow aspect like HVAC or such.

    There is zero chance the final product, which is necessarily long-ago a done deal, looks anything like that cobbled-together POS mule.

    As far as solid axles or IFS I've heard nothing specific. Have also heard no specifics on how Ford will position it -- that would give some good insight.

    One thing makes me hopeful that it will be quite competent and that's the fact that Ford is holding it so close to the vest -- you'd think it was the 2020 GT500 or something -lol. There'd be no reason for that if it wasn't very special in one or more ways, whatever that may be.

    Rock crawler? I doubt it. But it would be a waste of investment resources to attempt to break into the core 4x4/ORV market with a limp product, so it's either targeting another narrow segment (unlikely) or may surprise us all with how broadly competent it may really be.

    It would be nice if it got Dana AdvanTEK 44s front and rear. We shall see.
     
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    svtfocus2cobra Opprimere, Velocitas, Violentia Operandi Established Member

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    If they aren't going directly for the Jeep Wrangler then what are they going for? Jeep has a huge market share with their vehicles and the Wrangler has essentially no serious competition at the moment. Historically the Bronco has been a good counter to the Wrangler and Ford knows this. Go to Moab and all you will see is built Wranglers and Broncos everywhere. Ford is probably keeping it a mystery because they dont want to give Jeep a chance to counter the Bronco before it hits the market.
     
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  11. HISSMAN

    HISSMAN The Great Bearded One Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Jeep probably won't counter anyway. The Jeep is going to be the Jeep.
     
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    What is there to counter? Sounds like the one that should be intrigued is Toyota since the Bronco is more of a 4Runner competitor and Toyota axed the FJ Cruiser.

    May I remind you those Porta John's still go for damn near retail 10 years later. Dumb Toyota, freaking dumb.

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  13. 68fastback

    68fastback Need DOHC Alloy Big Block Established Member

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    The Wrangler is a 'religious' market. I don't see Ford targeting it directly. Removeable doors? No. Water drainage? No. They will target it indirectly but not head-on, imo.

    My guess it will be optionable to be as capable as the Wrangler off-road (2-dr) but will also target Cherokee and Grand Cherokee (4-dr) depending on packaging and what is released when.

    I'd only be interested in the 2-dr version but one more civilized than Wrangler -- and I think that is the sweet spot Ford will aggressively target -- 'ruggedly civilized.'

    In a way that is also the how the '60s Bronco related to the '60s Jeep and is, imo, why the classic Bronco was so successful.

    Over the decades that followed the Bronco went through some twists and turns and the small Ranger-based variant was actually an excellent and maneuverable ORV (especially here in the NE) but that, unfortunately, dumbazz drivers managed to roll over on occasion and thereby draw more negative attention than Ford was willing to stomach.

    That was when and why it became a chopped F150 -- not as maneuverable as prior gen but very stable, very capable and similar dimensionally to K-Blazer/Jimmy, and substantially larger than that era's Wrangler. Once again it was very successful.

    Bronco's history just may give some insight into how Ford will position it once again.
     
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    svtfocus2cobra Opprimere, Velocitas, Violentia Operandi Established Member

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    It's like the Mustang and Corvette. They dont have much in common besides going fast but Chevy will never want the Mustang to ever be able to rival the Corvette, but Ford wants the Mustang to outperform it wherever it can.

    Capability is one thing that the Bronco and Wrangler may never be equal on, but when it comes to sales, which is all they really care about, and how they appeal to the average consumer, they are definitely in competition. If you dont think people will be cross-shopping the two then you need to pay attention more.
     
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    Exactly right, imo. Different but surely competing ...and that implies broad optioning/packaging to target a wide marketplace net.
     
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    IFS confirmed with what appears to be a post diff sway bar with actuated disconnect, similar to the Rubicon. To me they need to start comparing it to the 4runner now, instead of the Wrangler. It's still not a bad thing. I freaking loved my TRD Pro. A solid front axle is just way more capable for the hard core offroad fan.

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    ^ thats the front, not the rear
     
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  18. HISSMAN

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    Sorry.. I meant IFS. Fixed.
     
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    Fricken scared me man... I can live with an IFS... Haha
     
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    Someone working on the new Bronco reached out to a Classic Bronco historian and asked for photos of the 1966 Bronco being tested in Arizona in 1964. It sounds like the new Bronco is being tested at the same facility they used 55 years ago

    Put these into google:

    33° 42′ 23.02″ N, 112° 30′ 23.75″ W
    33° 47' 50.0" N, 112° 29' 41.7" W
    34° 52' 47.2" N, 114° 07' 51.9" W
     

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