Russia on the brink?

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You do know that other than the Mongolian's most everyone else that tried kicking in the door to Russia was sent packing. But the last 3 major times a world Superpower was reduced to a 2nd world player.

Napoleon's France 1813-14 then Kaiser's Germany 1914-18 and finally the 3rd Riech Nazi Germany 1941-45 all was knocked down a peg or 2 due to thinking Russia would be a push over due to what they thought was military superiority over those backwards and low tech Russians. Yeah we best stay out and not even entertain such a thing.

The Russians got 2 things that just scares me to death that being EMP weapons where they can fry the communications and power grids to pre 1870's and also the power grid to a crisp. Then the real big baddy that being Neutron Weapons. Yeah they are a Nuke weapon but they do a very bad thing. You detonate it in the upper atmosphere and so when it goes off the radiation kills animal cells so every living thing that isn't a plant dies! Plant life all you got to do is decontaminate it and it still functions like nothing ever happened. It has to do that the plant has the thick plant wall around their cells while animals do not have it so they get the full dose and die.
 

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Napoleon's France 1813-14 then Kaiser's Germany 1914-18 and finally the 3rd Riech Nazi Germany 1941-45 all was knocked down a peg or 2 due to thinking Russia would be a push over due to what they thought was military superiority over those backwards and low tech Russians. Yeah we best stay out and not even entertain such a thing.

Realistically though, the 3rd Reich should have been able to march all the way to the Sea of Japan but a number of rudimentary German blunders prevented such from happening.

Sooner or later the two toughest boys will fight. It's inevitable.
 

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You do know that other than the Mongolian's most everyone else that tried kicking in the door to Russia was sent packing. But the last 3 major times a world Superpower was reduced to a 2nd world player.

Napoleon's France 1813-14 then Kaiser's Germany 1914-18 and finally the 3rd Riech Nazi Germany 1941-45 all was knocked down a peg or 2 due to thinking Russia would be a push over due to what they thought was military superiority over those backwards and low tech Russians. Yeah we best stay out and not even entertain such a thing.

You forgot how England, Japan, Finland and Poland kick the shit out of them....

Also, Russia was kicked so hard in 1917 it collapsed and rebranded. That was a win for Germany.
 

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Realistically though, the 3rd Reich should have been able to march all the way to the Sea of Japan but a number of rudimentary German blunders prevented such from happening.

Sooner or later the two toughest boys will fight. It's inevitable.
Realistically, 1939-1941 - everything went right for Germany, did.

If you where to play that game again a few times they could have easily been crushed in Poland, France and the Ukraine.

Had the Soviets not followed through with the Poland split, Poland could have mounted a significant counter attack that would have provoked the French to attack the undefended Germany.

Had the Soviets not had a purge and remained on high alert, the Nazi invasion would have lost steam much faster.

Invasion of Poland casualties :

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Realistically, 1939-1941 - everything that went fright for Germany, did.

If you where to play that game again a few times they could have easily been crushed in Poland, France and the Ukraine.

Had the Soviets not followed through with the Poland split, Poland could have mounted a significant counter attack that would have provoked the French to attack the undefended Germany.

Had the Soviets not had a purge and remained on high alert, the Nazi invasion would have lost steam much faster.

IMO the biggest reason why Germany fell in Russia was hubris. Adolph completely underestimated his opponent and completely overestimated the capabilities of his forces all things considered.
 

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Nothing is going to happen. It will be cold war after cold war with Russia (and China). The reason there will never be true confrontation between Russia or the US (including most of the super powers) is it would end up a ****ing nuke fest.
 

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No and no.

Our fragile little libtard loser leaders don’t have the stones to go to war with a real adversary like China or Russia.

All they like to do is pick on little chicken shit countries.

Wrong, they pick on their own citizens for meme making and saying bad things about them on social media.
 

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Nothing is going to happen. It will be cold war after cold war with Russia (and China). The reason there will never be true confrontation between Russia or the US (including most of the super powers) is it would end up a ****ing nuke fest.
Not even.


A guy on YouTube did a great in depth review of how a Russian invasion of Ukraine would play out.

Basically, if the EU tried something, it would net ~20k Russian casualties and 5k EU casualties and billions in losses.

End result? Defending Ukraine isn't worth it and Europe would do nothing.

Limited conflicts are absolutely plausible, after all Russia didn't nuke Afghanistan and the US hasn't nuked Iraq or Iran.
 

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Not even.


A guy on YouTube did a great in depth review of how a Russian invasion of Ukraine would play out.

Basically, if the EU tried something, it would net ~20k Russian casualties and 5k EU casualties and billions in losses.

End result? Defending Ukraine isn't worth it and Europe would do nothing.

Limited conflicts are absolutely plausible, after all Russia didn't nuke Afghanistan and the US hasn't nuked Iraq or Iran.


Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and the Ukraine are shithole countries that mean nothing in the big picture. These are countries that are nothing more then props. Nukes won't fly over the Ukraine or Afghanistan. I am talking about superpower vs superpower direct conflict. Which I don't think will happen other then endless cold wars.

The US will be torn apart from within with some help from foreign influence. As an example.
 

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Ukraine would be important to Russia for the food they produce, which is now a pretty significant amount, and the global currency exchange that comes with that food production. For second tier players like Ukraine and Argentina, grain exports are pivotal in the countries well being financially.
 

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You do know that other than the Mongolian's most everyone else that tried kicking in the door to Russia was sent packing. But the last 3 major times a world Superpower was reduced to a 2nd world player.

Napoleon's France 1813-14 then Kaiser's Germany 1914-18 and finally the 3rd Riech Nazi Germany 1941-45 all was knocked down a peg or 2 due to thinking Russia would be a push over due to what they thought was military superiority over those backwards and low tech Russians. Yeah we best stay out and not even entertain such a thing.

The Russians got 2 things that just scares me to death that being EMP weapons where they can fry the communications and power grids to pre 1870's and also the power grid to a crisp. Then the real big baddy that being Neutron Weapons. Yeah they are a Nuke weapon but they do a very bad thing. You detonate it in the upper atmosphere and so when it goes off the radiation kills animal cells so every living thing that isn't a plant dies! Plant life all you got to do is decontaminate it and it still functions like nothing ever happened. It has to do that the plant has the thick plant wall around their cells while animals do not have it so they get the full dose and die.

LOL you really need to switch to decalf...Jesus****ingChrist...
 

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June 22, 1941 might ring a bell.
Did anyone try invading Russia in the summer? I feel like everyone tried in the winter which is well, less than intelligent

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Relax,
Joe is gonna send Boris Yelstin a stern letter telling him to let Solzhenitsyn out of jail.
Everything is a ok.
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You do know that other than the Mongolian's most everyone else that tried kicking in the door to Russia was sent packing. But the last 3 major times a world Superpower was reduced to a 2nd world player.

Napoleon's France 1813-14 then Kaiser's Germany 1914-18 and finally the 3rd Riech Nazi Germany 1941-45 all was knocked down a peg or 2 due to thinking Russia would be a push over due to what they thought was military superiority over those backwards and low tech Russians. Yeah we best stay out and not even entertain such a thing.

The Russians got 2 things that just scares me to death that being EMP weapons where they can fry the communications and power grids to pre 1870's and also the power grid to a crisp. Then the real big baddy that being Neutron Weapons. Yeah they are a Nuke weapon but they do a very bad thing. You detonate it in the upper atmosphere and so when it goes off the radiation kills animal cells so every living thing that isn't a plant dies! Plant life all you got to do is decontaminate it and it still functions like nothing ever happened. It has to do that the plant has the thick plant wall around their cells while animals do not have it so they get the full dose and die.
Then there's the rumored "Rods from Gods"! I believe Russia has planned something similar.

These Air Force 'rods from God' could hit with the force of a nuclear weapon - We Are The Mighty

The 107-country Outer Space Treaty signed in 1967 prohibits nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons from being placed or used from Earth’s orbit. What they didn’t count on was the U.S. Air Force’s most simple weapon ever: a tungsten rod that could hit a city with the explosive power of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

During the Vietnam War, the U.S. used what they called “Lazy Dog” bombs. These were simply solid steel pieces, less than two inches long, fitted with fins. There was no explosive – they were simply dropped by the hundreds from planes flying above Vietnam.

Lazy Dog projectiles (aka “kinetic bombardment”) could reach speeds of up to 500 mph as they fell to the ground and could penetrate nine inches of concrete after being dropped from as little as 3,000 feet

The idea is like shooting bullets at a target, except instead of losing velocity as it travels, the projectile is gaining velocity and energy that will be expended on impact. They were shotgunning a large swath of jungle, raining bullet-sized death at high speeds.

That’s how Project Thor came to be.

Instead of hundreds of small projectiles from a few thousand feet, Thor used a large projectile from a few thousand miles above the Earth. The “rods from God” idea was a bundle of telephone-pole sized (20 feet long, one foot in diameter) tungsten rods, dropped from orbit, reaching a speed of up to ten times the speed of sound

The rod itself would penetrate hundreds of feet into the Earth, destroying any potential hardened bunkers or secret underground sites. More than that, when the rod hits, the explosion would be on par with the magnitude of a ground-penetrating nuclear weapon – but with no fallout.

It would take 15 minutes to destroy a target with such a weapon.

One Quora user who works in the defense aerospace industry quoted a cost of no less than $10,000 per pound to fire anything into space. With 20 cubic feet of dense tungsten weighing in at just over 24,000 pounds, the math is easy. Just one of the rods would be prohibitively expensive. The cost of $230 million dollars per rod was unimaginable during the Cold War.

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Like lawn darts, but with global repercussions.

These days, not so much. The Bush Administration even considered revisiting the idea to hit underground nuclear sites in rogue nations in the years following 9/11. Interestingly enough, the cost of a single Minuteman III ICBM was $7 million in 1962, when it was first introduced ($57 million adjusted for inflation).

The trouble with a nuclear payload is that it isn’t designed to penetrate deep into the surface. And the fallout from a nuclear device can be devastating to surrounding, potentially friendly areas.

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A core takeaway from the concept of weapons like Project Thor’s is that hypersonic weapons pack a significant punch and might be the future of global warfare.
 

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