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<blockquote data-quote="Tob" data-source="post: 17016060" data-attributes="member: 83412"><p>Thanks for this thread Morgan.</p><p></p><p>If somebody told me about red light therapy and I hadn't done any research I'd immediately think they operated on a Biden-capacity brain level. I have researched the shit out of it and listened carefully to people that have experience with it. I'm a believer. When I spoke with some doctors at the hospital that did my back surgeries and learned that they were using it for burn victims, I was sold.</p><p></p><p>Three years old but you can trust Cleveland Clinic on this.</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22114-red-light-therapy[/URL]</p><p></p><p><strong>On edit:</strong> I now see that Morgan linked the same CC page and I missed that while reading his initial post. I had my open heart surgery there and can attest to the legitimacy of most anything they report on.</p><p></p><p>In a nutshell, the typical wavelengths used stimulate the mitochondria in cells that are hit with the light. This is win/win. In my case, I needed something to get my left leg going again.</p><p></p><p>I tweaked my back in 1998 while working on Rich Stadium renovations (where the Buffalo Bills play). I was running work and in the mud, doing demo and formwork for luxury boxes around the stadium inner perimeter.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830767[/ATTACH]</p><p><em>Here I am looking for a Bills Super Bowl victory but I can't find it. Can't believe this was 26 years ago...</em></p><p></p><p>Anyway, I sneezed at 7am while walking to open up a gang box and my back went out. I needed help to make it out to the parking lot where I tried to lay down in the back of a pickup truck. Pain was substantial but after staying home for a week or so I went back to work. Off and on throughout the years my back would go out and I'd deal with it. Stretching, painkillers, etc. Well, last June it went out and I ended up crawling from my shop to the house. Long story short, I ended up having two back surgeries, one week apart. They fixed my back but created another problem by tearing the nerve open and had to stitch it up (twice). I lost almost all of my cerebral spinal fluid. It leaked out through the lower back stitches. That got me in almost immediately for the second surgery.</p><p></p><p>I lost feeling from my left buttock, through my taint/left nut, thigh/hamstring, calf, foot/toes. The nerve ****ed me. Painful as a mother****er, I was in bed for over two months, November through January of this year. I then moved to using a walker for a bit, then a cane. Now I'm able to hobble without the cane. Nerve issues are unpredictable and I kept hearing recovery, if at all, could take years. I severed my facial nerve when I was 16 years old in a truck accident (hit by a tandem axle trailer truck while standing next to a utility tower) so I've had experience here - more on that later.</p><p></p><p>In three months my pain has gone from 100 to 40, if that means anything. The nerve heals from the closest point to the furthest point away from the damage. Meaning, my toes will be the last to recover. All that time in bed allowed for research and as a result I ordered a light panel in hopes of getting the nerve to wake the **** up. Just know that when the nerve goes on vacation, you lose all the related muscle mass too. So I ordered a table top red light panel. The idea being that I could move it around to different parts of my body and hit the affected area as directly as possible.</p><p></p><p>I see Morgan ordered a Mito, good company. I bought mine from Platinum, more specifically their BioMAX 450. The stand was extra, as was their premium remote. All told, about a grand.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830768[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Took a month or so to get it but I have used it for two weeks straight now. My biggest concern is getting my toes back as I've fallen a few times and my ankle wants to always roll over. I use it on the top of my foot, bottom, calf, nut bag, ass and lower back. Twenty minutes per area. While it may look closer than that, I keep said body parts 6-8 inches away from the array.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830769[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830770[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830771[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Results? It is working. I can finally move my toes. Still feel the pins and needles but that has waned somewhat. I am also using a TENS device to help wake the nerve(s) up. I place the electrodes in a number of different areas on my foot and zap the piss out of myself for about an hour a day.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830773[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I was introduced to the TENS when I tore my facial nerve open and I'll never forget the pain from that experience. At least this is on my leg, somewhat better in terms of dealing with pain. Between the two, I'm making progress whereas I was getting nowhere by just walking and resting.</p><p></p><p>I'm also back to using my wheeled sled. With the near zero resistance setting, I'm using it to lean forward in an attempt to gain the articulation I lost in my ankle and toes. It will be a great way to gauge progress.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1830774[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I use the red light on my face too as I want to remain pretty for as long as possible. I don't know how to describe it but your skin changes. It "feels" healthier is the best way I can put it. Wife uses it too.</p><p></p><p>You have to be disciplined about the light and I'm doing my best to use it and the TENS every single day without skipping any related areas. I'll report back with progress as time goes by. My hope is regain full functionality and be working the sled hard by the time June arrives. My surgeon thinks that is a bit optimistic but he doesn't have a lot of related experience with red light therapy for post-op back (or leg in this case) recovery.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tob, post: 17016060, member: 83412"] Thanks for this thread Morgan. If somebody told me about red light therapy and I hadn't done any research I'd immediately think they operated on a Biden-capacity brain level. I have researched the shit out of it and listened carefully to people that have experience with it. I'm a believer. When I spoke with some doctors at the hospital that did my back surgeries and learned that they were using it for burn victims, I was sold. Three years old but you can trust Cleveland Clinic on this. [URL unfurl="true"]https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22114-red-light-therapy[/URL] [B]On edit:[/B] I now see that Morgan linked the same CC page and I missed that while reading his initial post. I had my open heart surgery there and can attest to the legitimacy of most anything they report on. In a nutshell, the typical wavelengths used stimulate the mitochondria in cells that are hit with the light. This is win/win. In my case, I needed something to get my left leg going again. I tweaked my back in 1998 while working on Rich Stadium renovations (where the Buffalo Bills play). I was running work and in the mud, doing demo and formwork for luxury boxes around the stadium inner perimeter. [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20240229_145517.jpg"]1830767[/ATTACH] [I]Here I am looking for a Bills Super Bowl victory but I can't find it. Can't believe this was 26 years ago...[/I] Anyway, I sneezed at 7am while walking to open up a gang box and my back went out. I needed help to make it out to the parking lot where I tried to lay down in the back of a pickup truck. Pain was substantial but after staying home for a week or so I went back to work. Off and on throughout the years my back would go out and I'd deal with it. Stretching, painkillers, etc. Well, last June it went out and I ended up crawling from my shop to the house. Long story short, I ended up having two back surgeries, one week apart. They fixed my back but created another problem by tearing the nerve open and had to stitch it up (twice). I lost almost all of my cerebral spinal fluid. It leaked out through the lower back stitches. That got me in almost immediately for the second surgery. I lost feeling from my left buttock, through my taint/left nut, thigh/hamstring, calf, foot/toes. The nerve ****ed me. Painful as a mother****er, I was in bed for over two months, November through January of this year. I then moved to using a walker for a bit, then a cane. Now I'm able to hobble without the cane. Nerve issues are unpredictable and I kept hearing recovery, if at all, could take years. I severed my facial nerve when I was 16 years old in a truck accident (hit by a tandem axle trailer truck while standing next to a utility tower) so I've had experience here - more on that later. In three months my pain has gone from 100 to 40, if that means anything. The nerve heals from the closest point to the furthest point away from the damage. Meaning, my toes will be the last to recover. All that time in bed allowed for research and as a result I ordered a light panel in hopes of getting the nerve to wake the **** up. Just know that when the nerve goes on vacation, you lose all the related muscle mass too. So I ordered a table top red light panel. The idea being that I could move it around to different parts of my body and hit the affected area as directly as possible. I see Morgan ordered a Mito, good company. I bought mine from Platinum, more specifically their BioMAX 450. The stand was extra, as was their premium remote. All told, about a grand. [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20240229_145323.jpg"]1830768[/ATTACH] Took a month or so to get it but I have used it for two weeks straight now. My biggest concern is getting my toes back as I've fallen a few times and my ankle wants to always roll over. I use it on the top of my foot, bottom, calf, nut bag, ass and lower back. Twenty minutes per area. While it may look closer than that, I keep said body parts 6-8 inches away from the array. [ATTACH type="full" alt="20240224_160416.jpg"]1830769[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="20240224_161048.jpg"]1830770[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="20240224_163405.jpg"]1830771[/ATTACH] Results? It is working. I can finally move my toes. Still feel the pins and needles but that has waned somewhat. I am also using a TENS device to help wake the nerve(s) up. I place the electrodes in a number of different areas on my foot and zap the piss out of myself for about an hour a day. [ATTACH type="full" alt="20240224_170630.jpg"]1830773[/ATTACH] I was introduced to the TENS when I tore my facial nerve open and I'll never forget the pain from that experience. At least this is on my leg, somewhat better in terms of dealing with pain. Between the two, I'm making progress whereas I was getting nowhere by just walking and resting. I'm also back to using my wheeled sled. With the near zero resistance setting, I'm using it to lean forward in an attempt to gain the articulation I lost in my ankle and toes. It will be a great way to gauge progress. [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20240229_144947.jpg"]1830774[/ATTACH] I use the red light on my face too as I want to remain pretty for as long as possible. I don't know how to describe it but your skin changes. It "feels" healthier is the best way I can put it. Wife uses it too. You have to be disciplined about the light and I'm doing my best to use it and the TENS every single day without skipping any related areas. I'll report back with progress as time goes by. My hope is regain full functionality and be working the sled hard by the time June arrives. My surgeon thinks that is a bit optimistic but he doesn't have a lot of related experience with red light therapy for post-op back (or leg in this case) recovery. [/QUOTE]
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