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  1. chagan02

    chagan02 Active Member Established Member

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    Hey guys,

    Two things here:

    1 - Looking to purchase a metal garage that will be large enough to store a pontoon (don’t have one, just preparing for the future), but not overly large due to available space. Any recommendations on manufacturers and sizes? Door sizes? I’m thinking 30x30 with 10 ft doors. Would like something nice looking, will be sitting next to the house (newer craftsman style).

    2 - Anyone ever installed an inground pool
    Kit from a place like Pool Warehouse? Seems like a lot of work, some of which I can’t do (like excavation), but could probably contract some of that. Am considering that. Local pool installers are upward of 40-50k for even a liner inground pool, I can’t see paying that. Seems doing it myself, factoring in the kit, concrete, and electrical, it can be done for $20k.

    Located in east TN.

    Thanks,
    Danny


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  2. 7998

    7998 Trying To Be More White Established Member Malt Liquor Mafia

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    I'll say this, garages are like gun safes. Find the biggest one you can afford and buy the next size up. Also pour a 6" concrete slab and get 12' ceilings. If you're a toy guy you may want put a lift in and you'll need the 6" slab and 12' ceilings.
     
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    Blkkbgt Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    A 6 inch thick pad is not required for a lift. You can save on materials by making the area where the lift will be deeper and tying everything in with rebar. This is very similar to pouring footings. It does require more planning and pigeon holes you into putting your lift in that particular spot though.

    I am sure someone here will try and argue that this isn't safe but its an approved method by lift manufacturers/installers. Also depending on what lift you want 6 inch concrete isn't required either.
     
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    HuntFishCobra Formerly MarkOPKS Premium Member Established Member

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    As said before go as tall and as big as you can afford. You’ll be surprised how fast it fills up. Ours is 30x36 (as big as we could go based on our lot size per the county) and I really would love the extra 4 foot for a 30x40 haha. Oh well nothing a garden shed can’t fix this spring. Ours is a wick building. Our general contractor was a d-bag but the building is great and the crew did a great job. PM if you want more info
     
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    ENV² Well-Known Member Established Member

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    You’ll need a contractor for pool and likely permits


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  6. 1o1proof

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    Go look at pontoons before building a 30' shop. When you add the outdrive and trailer you will fill up 30' quick, fast and in a hurry or have a VERY small pontoon. We did 40x40 and like mentioned above, it is already too small. This spring we are going to add a leanto off the back for the boat, tractors and other junk I don't want in the way all the time.
     
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    chagan02 Active Member Established Member

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    Thanks for all the input fellas. Sounds like the consensus is go as big and tall as possible.

    Does anyone have any personal experience with any of the National manufacturers? I’m seeing a few that sell complete building with installation (which I assume doesn’t include land prep and concrete).


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  8. chagan02

    chagan02 Active Member Established Member

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    Yeah I’ve looked into this portion, in my county a home owner can go get those permits themselves. All the standard inspections and such are still required. Personally I’d rather pay someone to install the pool and I would tackle the building to save money. I feel much more comfortable building the garage lol. I guess I could always do an above ground pool, but would rather not.


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  9. ford fanatic

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    Stick build a garage that matches your house, as big as you can with 12' ceilings. A metal building will look like an afterthought. My house, 30'X40'X12' garage and 12X24 shed are all the same materials/colors, and it looks fantastic.

    I'd really consider a contractor for your pool build...good luck.
     
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    Double.
     
  11. 03cobra#694

    03cobra#694 I Have LL’s Hammer Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Get in touch w/@STAMPEDE3. He's the pool king around here.
     
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    Slab on compacted grade with 4-8" gravel. Insulation under the slab would also help depending on what area you're in. And wire mesh reinforcement in the slab. What about a trench drain so you can wash the car down inside and have the water drain away? You'll need an oil separator. I believe it is required by code - depending on where you live.

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    Go big or go home. I'd rather go thicker and stronger everywhere. 16" O.C 2x6 stud walls? Screw that how about 12" O.C. 2x8" stud walls lol!?! I'm kidding...

    I worked on an existing house where the dining room floor (2x12 floor joists) was bouncy and the owner wanted to stiffen it up. The structural engineer specified that we double up all the joists. It made a difference. That house was a total gut job. All the electrical, plumbing, plaster etc. was ripped out. So it was easy to add joists etc. and then redo the electrical. Total cost of renovation was close to $2 million dollars. And they paid around that for the existing house.
     
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    Blkkbgt Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    I am not trying to derail this thread but you are comparing apples to oranges here.
     
  16. STAMPEDE3

    STAMPEDE3 SAULS BROTHER Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Doing a liner pool yourself is not bad. Find out who does the digging for the local pool places and contract him to dig and do the ground work.
    Possible you could get a small pool company to just supervise for a couple grand just to make sure you're doing it correctly.
    I installed liner pools for a few years this way. Basiclly as a consultant.
    It just got to the point where Louisiana was making it difficult to keep up with the changing rules and do it part time. It as either go all out full time or walk away. I chose the latter but will still help people from time to time.
     
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    chagan02 Active Member Established Member

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    Was hoping you’d jump in after a recommendation to talk to ya. I have a few question about the pool kits, would you mind if I pm’d ya?


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    We will be starting on our in ground pool next month. We hired a local company to do it. 16x38 rectangular pool. No permits needed, as we are in the county.

    $64k installed price.

    We priced out 3 different companies, this one came in middle of the price range. Highest one was $72k.

    Includes 5" concrete decking all the way around, 6" depth on one end, LED lighting, pool heater, pool cleaner, 3 waterfalls.

    Pool prices and demand have gone up dramatically with Covid. Some companies that had 1 month wait to install are now at 1 year wait. It's crazy
     
  19. 01yellercobra

    01yellercobra AKA slo984now Established Member

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    FWIW, our boat is 21.5" long. That extends to about 25' when measuring from the tongue to outdrive. The front of my trailer swings out of the way, but as you can see when adding in the trailer things get long quick. (That's what she said)
     
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    Based on their reputation and their support for the community, I'm looking first at Mueller for an additional shop/hangar.

    Regardless of the manufacturer, I recommend getting it insulated on day 1, if it's not included. I regret not insulated our 30 by 30 before moving all of my junk in it.
     

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