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<blockquote data-quote="jpro" data-source="post: 16764977" data-attributes="member: 72690"><p>Wondering what Nick [USER=138337]@13COBRA[/USER] and other folks who work at dealerships think of the new manufacturer and dealer practices that are becoming more and more common:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Manufacturers starting to charge a monthly subscription fee for added features that to this point have been standard on your car (i.e. heated seats, emergency braking systems): <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/car-feature-subscriptions-add-ons-bmw-ford-toyota-gm-2022-2" target="_blank">Subscription based pricing</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Dealers adding on "MANDATORY" options such as paint protection and VIN etching. Even though they aren't mandatory to buy the car, most dealers are charging it as a part as of the OTD price and force you to haggle to take it off. For example check out the "Henderson Hyundai Protection Package" baked into the up front price on this car at a local dealership (FYI, they have added this package to all new cars on their lot): <a href="https://www.hendersonhyundai.com/inventory/new-2022-hyundai-elantra-sel-fwd-4d-sedan-kmhlm4ag9nu282185/" target="_blank">$2K for a protection package on a new Sonata? WTF?!?!?!</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The incredible increase of MSRP on all vehicles. Over the past few weeks I have replied to several Facebook posts in the S550 Buy and Sell group when crybabies complain about dealers charging over $50K for a Mustang. When a dealer sells a car for MSRP, if the price is high, that's not the dealer's doing, its the manufacturer. The average new car costs over $47K! <a href="https://www.kbb.com/car-news/average-new-car-price-tops-47000/" target="_blank">Average new car costs over $47k!</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">And of course, the dreaded ADM, which some dealers don't charge because they try to tack on the mandatory packages mentioned in #2.</li> </ol><p>I have also heard of dealers charging you an ADM to order through their dealership and some who are trying to add the protection packages mentioned in #2 to your ordered vehicle (LOL...it hasn't even been assembled or delivered and dealers are trying to add costs the consumer doesn't want). I almost want to go into a dealership for fun and try to negotiate my way into an MSRP deal. LOL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jpro, post: 16764977, member: 72690"] Wondering what Nick [USER=138337]@13COBRA[/USER] and other folks who work at dealerships think of the new manufacturer and dealer practices that are becoming more and more common: [LIST=1] [*]Manufacturers starting to charge a monthly subscription fee for added features that to this point have been standard on your car (i.e. heated seats, emergency braking systems): [URL='https://www.businessinsider.com/car-feature-subscriptions-add-ons-bmw-ford-toyota-gm-2022-2']Subscription based pricing[/URL] [*]Dealers adding on "MANDATORY" options such as paint protection and VIN etching. Even though they aren't mandatory to buy the car, most dealers are charging it as a part as of the OTD price and force you to haggle to take it off. For example check out the "Henderson Hyundai Protection Package" baked into the up front price on this car at a local dealership (FYI, they have added this package to all new cars on their lot): [URL='https://www.hendersonhyundai.com/inventory/new-2022-hyundai-elantra-sel-fwd-4d-sedan-kmhlm4ag9nu282185/']$2K for a protection package on a new Sonata? WTF?!?!?![/URL] [*]The incredible increase of MSRP on all vehicles. Over the past few weeks I have replied to several Facebook posts in the S550 Buy and Sell group when crybabies complain about dealers charging over $50K for a Mustang. When a dealer sells a car for MSRP, if the price is high, that's not the dealer's doing, its the manufacturer. The average new car costs over $47K! [URL='https://www.kbb.com/car-news/average-new-car-price-tops-47000/']Average new car costs over $47k![/URL] [*]And of course, the dreaded ADM, which some dealers don't charge because they try to tack on the mandatory packages mentioned in #2. [/LIST] I have also heard of dealers charging you an ADM to order through their dealership and some who are trying to add the protection packages mentioned in #2 to your ordered vehicle (LOL...it hasn't even been assembled or delivered and dealers are trying to add costs the consumer doesn't want). I almost want to go into a dealership for fun and try to negotiate my way into an MSRP deal. LOL [/QUOTE]
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