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<blockquote data-quote="Corbic" data-source="post: 16371451" data-attributes="member: 171475"><p>You are missing his point.</p><p></p><p>While a ZR1 was impressive for 1990, it's not for today.</p><p></p><p>So that means it's only value is based on <strong> nostalgia and novelty. </strong> </p><p></p><p> They also produced 7k, almost all of which got stored as future collectables. This also means it's not even remotely rare. A MKIV Supra, only 12k Turbo models made it to the US for example and those have been used, abused, crashed, modded and destroyed. Good luck finding a factory original car. </p><p></p><p>A Hemi Cuda has become an icon for a bygone era. It has been built into a modern mythos to something far greater then it ever was. It's hyped, romanticized and fantasized about. It has prestige and symbology. It's highly sought after and collectable because it represents more then just a car. It's an emotion, it's art, it's America at its finest. </p><p></p><p>A C4 ZR1 is a cool foot note, but no one spent a decade dreaming of them, or making movies, magazines, articles and tributes to it. </p><p></p><p>It was a foot step on the road of progress, quickly replaced by something sleeker, faster and better designed. </p><p></p><p>A strong argument about classic muscle is they did not get replaced. Safety requirements set car aesthetics back by two decades. Emissions crippled performance for almost 30 years.</p><p></p><p>1971 Mustang 351 did the 1/4 in 13.9 seconds.</p><p></p><p>1973 we collapsed to 16.1, and in '74 a blistering 19.2 seconds.</p><p></p><p>It was not until 2003 that we would see a stock factory production Mustang break the 14 second barrier again, Mach 1 @ 13.9 (auto) 13.7 (manual).</p><p></p><p>And of course the car everyone still talks about, the 2003 SVT Cobra at 12.9 - effectively launching the last 20 years of ever increasingly more powerful cars.</p><p></p><p>Corvette, similar story.</p><p></p><p>1969 427 blazed to the 1/4 @ 13.9, spent the 70's as a 16 second car, 80's in the mid 14's. I'm showing the 1993 ZR1 ran an impressive 13.4.</p><p></p><p>But the C5 matched that at 13.1 in '97, C5Z ran 12.4 in' 01 and the current ZR1 is blasting sub 11's.</p><p></p><p>So are you dreaming about a C4ZR1 or a C8? Would you pick a C5ZR1 over a C2 Split Window?</p><p></p><p>Does the C4ZR1 have racing prestige and the universal love of a 911/964/993? What about an E30 M3?</p><p></p><p> Is it the everyman hero that every car enthusiast owned at one point in highschool like the Fox Body?</p><p></p><p>Personally, I see a Turbo 300ZX as a better built, styled and technologically more advanced car compared to a C4ZR1.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corbic, post: 16371451, member: 171475"] You are missing his point. While a ZR1 was impressive for 1990, it's not for today. So that means it's only value is based on [b] nostalgia and novelty. [/b] They also produced 7k, almost all of which got stored as future collectables. This also means it's not even remotely rare. A MKIV Supra, only 12k Turbo models made it to the US for example and those have been used, abused, crashed, modded and destroyed. Good luck finding a factory original car. A Hemi Cuda has become an icon for a bygone era. It has been built into a modern mythos to something far greater then it ever was. It's hyped, romanticized and fantasized about. It has prestige and symbology. It's highly sought after and collectable because it represents more then just a car. It's an emotion, it's art, it's America at its finest. A C4 ZR1 is a cool foot note, but no one spent a decade dreaming of them, or making movies, magazines, articles and tributes to it. It was a foot step on the road of progress, quickly replaced by something sleeker, faster and better designed. A strong argument about classic muscle is they did not get replaced. Safety requirements set car aesthetics back by two decades. Emissions crippled performance for almost 30 years. 1971 Mustang 351 did the 1/4 in 13.9 seconds. 1973 we collapsed to 16.1, and in '74 a blistering 19.2 seconds. It was not until 2003 that we would see a stock factory production Mustang break the 14 second barrier again, Mach 1 @ 13.9 (auto) 13.7 (manual). And of course the car everyone still talks about, the 2003 SVT Cobra at 12.9 - effectively launching the last 20 years of ever increasingly more powerful cars. Corvette, similar story. 1969 427 blazed to the 1/4 @ 13.9, spent the 70's as a 16 second car, 80's in the mid 14's. I'm showing the 1993 ZR1 ran an impressive 13.4. But the C5 matched that at 13.1 in '97, C5Z ran 12.4 in' 01 and the current ZR1 is blasting sub 11's. So are you dreaming about a C4ZR1 or a C8? Would you pick a C5ZR1 over a C2 Split Window? Does the C4ZR1 have racing prestige and the universal love of a 911/964/993? What about an E30 M3? Is it the everyman hero that every car enthusiast owned at one point in highschool like the Fox Body? Personally, I see a Turbo 300ZX as a better built, styled and technologically more advanced car compared to a C4ZR1. [/QUOTE]
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