On3 Performance Turbo Kit Install

ModularSpeed

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Well, after being a die hard N/A kinda guy all these years, I have decided to take a step into the turbocharged world.

My current car is a 1998 Cobra, with a 2003 Mach 1 Longblock. I put 96-98 Cobra Intake cams in it, and with bolt-ons it was making 346rwhp, and good enough for 11.6's@118 on Drag Radials with a 1.6 sixty foot.

This car is basically a full bolt-on car, with some suspension and the other "goodies" that push it more towards the "drag car" type.

I will try and keep this thread updated as much as possible with pictures, my opinion on the kit, dyno results, track results....etc. My goal is basically to run 8 PSI, run 10's with ease, and not destroy the T45 I am currently running.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Changes:

  • On3 Performance 4V Forward Facing Turbo Kit
  • ModularSpeed ported intake removed,stock intake installed
  • 30# Injectors Removed, 55# Injectors Installed
  • 90mm LMAF Removed, VMP HPX MAF Installed
  • Stock Thermostat/Housing Removed, Modified Cooling System Installed
  • 4.56 Gears Removed, 3.73 Gears Installed
  • 15x3.5 Billet Specialties/Skinnies Removed, 17" of the same wheel Installed

Initial Impressions

I got the kit a few days after ordering, and everything was there except a few fittings for the turbo/oil lines....and a fitting for the oil filter relocation. I was told that I would have them in a few days after I received the other parts....and that I did. I was contacted to ensure I received them as well.

I have had a few questions here and there about some stuff....and Chad and Mike have been very helpful along the way. They also gave me some recommendations on the install, which I appreciate very much.

Customer service up to this point, A+

The kit......... This kit, when in your hand is very nice looking. I am a VERY picky person, as the On3 gang can probably agree.... There are a few small things I see with this kit, which I feel I could probably upgrade, or "touch" up....but I don't really want to. I want to put the kit on, as it comes....and see what type of gains I get both on the dyno, the track...and the street.

I will be honest, I was very impressed initially.....by the quality of the components....but I know "time will tell" the truth. I am pretty confident I will not have any negative issues with this kit. I did NOT buy this kit to daily drive, nor to put 20,000+ miles on. I bought this kit to put on a car that sees 2,000 miles every 2 years, and stays in my garage 365 nights of the year.

If this kit performs to my expectations, I will be very pleased. And do not think for ONE MINUTE, that is there are small issues/hang ups along the way that I will complain.....as I realize I saved thousands by going this route. If I need to make a cut here, a weld there....or even re-do all the connections....I honestly do not care.


The kit came just about exactly as pictured:
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Some Hardware
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Gettin her ready
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Tearin her apart
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I was very impatient, installed these in a few hours after the kit arrived....so soon that I forgot to take pictures....my bad
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Instructions tell me not to install headers before oil filter relocation....BLAH!
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I did not use the hardware that came witht he kit for the header bolts....I used "Stage 8" Bolts as I have always had great luck with them.

I ALSO (which I may regret) decided to use the header gaskets that came with this kit....they are the cheapo type....but I want to use the kit as it is. Anyone including myself can make a kit work, or "better" than it comes....but I have a feeling that this stock motor wont last too long....so I will coat everything and use better stuff the next go around.

Here is the "GT" lower radiator hose I decided to use. I chose to get rid of the 4V style system, to create some additional clearance for the piping in that area. I am installing a Meziere Billet T-Stat housing, along with a Meziere 180deg T-Stat

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VMP HPX Maf, VMP MAF Flange, VMP Harness to adapt the 05+ slot style MAF
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Meziere Billet T-Sta housing, and T-Stat. AWESOME PART
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I will have more as I go!
 

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Good luck on the install. I had the gen 1 on3 kit on my last mustang and you can't beat it for the price.

A lot of on3 haters on this site too but just take your time and should be fine.
 

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looks good, if your running 118mph now i would bet your close to 130mph with the kit on the stock motor, thats pretty beastly. GL with the build.
 

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Good Luck...I've seen one of these in person and they looked to be really nice. The only issues I have heard of is if you don't upgrade the turbo that comes with the kit. Hope everything turns out great for you :) IMO, you won't regret going turbo.
 

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congrats! i am installing my kit as well and i have the same opinions as you. alot of people will complain about having one small issue and then badmouth the kit because of it. cant wait to see the results :rockon:
 

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Good luck on the install. I had the gen 1 on3 kit on my last mustang and you can't beat it for the price.

A lot of on3 haters on this site too but just take your time and should be fine.

I think it will be fine. Actually, I know it will because I will make it be fine. lol

looks good, if your running 118mph now i would bet your close to 130mph with the kit on the stock motor, thats pretty beastly. GL with the build.

Thanks. Yeah....I would like to see 130mph. I think in the winter (FL) that it will go 130 mph for sure, no doubt....probably closer to 132ish.



Thanks everyone for the "Good Lucks" I appreciate it.
 

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Didn't get a lot done last night. Goal was to solder on the MAF, finish up the Oil Filter Relocation, Gap/Install Plugs, and tap/install the oil drain fitting to oil pan. I started working at 10:00....and discovered my solder is missing, and my punch/tap necessary for the oil drain are missing..... I moved recently, and believe those are at my other house...

I was able to install the new NGK TR6 plugs. They were pretty much "pre-gapped" at where I wanted them, but I regapped them anyways....

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I also went ahead and cleaned the area where I will be installing the fitting for the oil drain. The hole needs to be 5/8" down from the top of the oil pan....and 1-7/8" to the right of the center of the second oil pan bolt (from left to right)

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very cool...did you do any research about the boost this kit is capable of...

all the videos and dyno stuff they show is like 8-10 psi. im curious if they or anyone else has put one of these kits on a car capable of 15+ pounds and what those results were.
 

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very cool...did you do any research about the boost this kit is capable of...

all the videos and dyno stuff they show is like 8-10 psi. im curious if they or anyone else has put one of these kits on a car capable of 15+ pounds and what those results were.

I will be finding out in about one month I hope. I have a '97 Cobra with an 04 Cobra shortblock with the GEN 1 ON3 perfromance kit on it with a 76mm ball bearing Turbonetics turbo. Looking for 600ish rwhp, but that is my "hope" on 16-18lbs.

On a side note, do you have any more info on the radiator hose and T-Stat housing? I am running into some clearance issues with my lower hose on the Gen 1 kit. I appreciate any info you may have to help me out here .
 
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Your going to hate that oil drain fitting. I would pull the pan and have it welded. Its next to impossible to get it put in properly with the engine in the car.
 

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On a side note, do you have any more info on the radiator hose and T-Stat housing? I am running into some clearance issues with my lower hose on the Gen 1 kit. I appreciate any info you may have to help me out here .

Like? It is a Meziere 1.5" Stat housing. And a GT replacement lower hose.

Your going to hate that oil drain fitting. I would pull the pan and have it welded. Its next to impossible to get it put in properly with the engine in the car.

I have done them over a dozen times. It will be fine.
 

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5/8" down from the top of the pan, 1-7/8" to the right of the middle of the second oil pan bolt (looking from the front towards rear of car)

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Grease, 3/8" NPT Tap, Punches, Gasket Maker, and the fitting for the pan:

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9/16" Hole Punched

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Grease Applied to Tap:

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Grease doing its job, lots of metal shavings:

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Fitting installed with lots of gasket maker:

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Before I button this up, I will be putting the hose ont he fitting, and putting about half a quart of oil through it, to wash away the shaving to the bottom of pan....so when I drain the oil, hopefully any shavings that were missed get drained.
 

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5/8" down from the top of the pan, 1-7/8" to the right of the middle of the second oil pan bolt (looking from the front towards rear of car)

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Grease, 3/8" NPT Tap, Punches, Gasket Maker, and the fitting for the pan:

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9/16" Hole Punched

2011-07-17112414.jpg


Grease Applied to Tap:

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Grease doing its job, lots of metal shavings:

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Fitting installed with lots of gasket maker:

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Before I button this up, I will be putting the hose ont he fitting, and putting about half a quart of oil through it, to wash away the shaving to the bottom of pan....so when I drain the oil, hopefully any shavings that were missed get drained.


No clearance issues with that pulley. man that looks close
 

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:bored: Wow... thats all I am going to say.

Thanks for the constructive input. If you have any particular questions, I will be glad to answer them.

Keep up with the thread. I will be posting track results once it is all dialed in. Maybe it will give you a goal to shoot for. :beer:
 

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how much work have you put into the suspension? any weight reduction? my goal is 11s with this kit on my stock '94 cobra. i see you ran mid 11s with just a bolt on 4v.
 

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