New 6.8L V8 for F150/Mustang?

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How did I miss this...?
Is there really a new 6.8 V8 coming to the F150/Mustang...?
DAMNIT!! Just bought a new PP1 GT 6 months ago....

This guy has some decent links he shares for "proof".
 

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And the Windsor plant current makes the 7.3...so maybe the 6.8 would be a pushrod motor...?

I guess if they do a bunch of EV's...wouldn't that open up their CAFE window for big cubic inch motors....?
 
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And the Windsor plant current makes the 7.3...so maybe the 6.8 would be a pushrod motor...?

I guess if they do a bunch of EV's...wouldn't that open up their CAFE window for big cubic inch motors....?

This is correct
 

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Maybe the 6.8 is only for the F150. I can't imagine Ford moving to a large pushrod after more than a decade downsizing.
 

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Lol, no. It ain't gonna happen. Why would it? What power level is the 5.0 incapable of that would warrant a 6.8l? Why would you put this in an F-150, so it could tow the same as a 3.5 EB but get half the mpg's?
 

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Lol, no. It ain't gonna happen. Why would it? What power level is the 5.0 incapable of that would warrant a 6.8l? Why would you put this in an F-150, so it could tow the same as a 3.5 EB but get half the mpg's?
It'll be smaller than the all the dohc engines. It'd be easy to end up with a 700+hp engine. And as far as the Ecoboost..... Mine was lucky to get 15mpg on the highway and towing my enclosed car trailer it wouldn't ever get 10mpg. So a direct injection, computer controlled 6.8 would easily match or better the Ecoboost.
 

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It'll be smaller than the all the dohc engines. It'd be easy to end up with a 700+hp engine. And as far as the Ecoboost..... Mine was lucky to get 15mpg on the highway and towing my enclosed car trailer it wouldn't ever get 10mpg. So a direct injection, computer controlled 6.8 would easily match or better the Ecoboost.

"Smaller than DOHC": So what, where ya trying to stuff this thing? I don't recall a big push to make cars narrower.

"700 hp": You do realize Ford was one of the companies that wants to uphold the Obama admins. CAFE standards.
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I get 18+ combined and 20+ mpgs with a 2019 CC 6.5 4x4 Platinum (Heaviest) with the max tow pkg.
It does suck towing but it much better than a comparable Hemi or 6.2 LS. What would a 6.8 get, 7 mpg's?.
 

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Lol, no. It ain't gonna happen. Why would it? What power level is the 5.0 incapable of that would warrant a 6.8l? Why would you put this in an F-150, so it could tow the same as a 3.5 EB but get half the mpg's?
First off,

I've been saying for a while now, on good account that Ford is not happy with the 5.0 Coyote in both production cost and in warranty cost.

It's not a bad engine, but face it, you have 4x the cams, twice the machine work and any type of warranty claim is going to take more time because the engines are crammed in there...

The engine is also a dead end, with no real room to grow in displacement or way to modularize it across other engines or configurations.

GM and Dodge have both shown that VVT, Cylinder Deactivation, Direct Injection, etc help OHV engines achieve comparable emissions, power and fuel economy.

Their engines also are able to support 4.8 - 6.6L of displacement while staying the same physical size.

Ford has also been struggling in the HD gas game because the 5.4 and 6.2 are turds, so it made sense to make a new engine and they went OHV for cost, maintenance and service. Only makes sense they'd trickle that development down into the Mustang and F150.


For those that can't grasp that "displacement" has zero to do with physical size.
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This is what the Mustang needs. If this thing can make like 550hp, it’ll make for one fun street car and will give more diversity engine wise to the Mustang lineup. I’d even take a tall deck 5.0.

In an F150, I’m sure it’ll be great. I’d still take the 3.5 ecoboost though, especially when tuned.
 

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This is what the Mustang needs. If this thing can make like 550hp, it’ll make for one fun street car and will give more diversity engine wise to the Mustang lineup. I’d even take a tall deck 5.0.

In an F150, I’m sure it’ll be great. I’d still take the 3.5 ecoboost though, especially when tuned.
Yup, and Ford could easily do a 428 (7l) for performance variants like the Mach and drop a SC on it for a GT500.

In turn, Ford could also destroke it and crank up the RPMs for a Boss version.
 

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First off,

I've been saying for a while now, on good account that Ford is not happy with the 5.0 Coyote in both product cost and in warranty cost.

It's not a bad engine, but face it, you have twice the 4x the cams, twice the machine work and any type of warranty claim is going to take more time because the engines are crammed in there...

The engine is also a dead end, with no real room to grow in displacement or way to modularize it across other engines or configurations.

GM and Dodge have both shown VVT, Cylinder Deactivation, Direct Injection, etc there engines achieve comparable emissions, power and fuel economy.

Their engines also are able to support 4.8 - 6.6L of displacement while staying the same physical size.

Ford has also been struggling in thr HD gas game because the 5.4 and 6.2 are turds, so it made sense to make a new engine and they went OHV for cost, maintenance and service. Only makes sense they'd trickle that development down into the Mustang and F150.


Ford those that can't grasp that "displacement" has zero to do with physical size.
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I agree with everything except that the 6.2 is not a turd. Very reliable and makes good power. Not the best in MPG thoe.
 

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Read the article on Muscle Cars and Trucks. Not sure how much truth there is to it. I think it might be time to start an S650 forum.
 

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2023 model coming out in 2022?
I’m guessing aluminum version of 7.3?
Will be a great alternative to the low torque Coyote but the boosted Coyote will still be the best performance option.
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