MY 03 pullied cobra vs stock 2011 Challenger SRT8 392 Hemi

[ChiSVT]

Charger SRT8 vs 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 - YouTube

1/8th mile, 6spd vs auto?

FYI, there is a guy running 12.2s@115mph in a stock 2011 GT on this forum. It doesn't mean shit, take a stock car, run it countless times in perfect weather and you will eventually get freak ETs.

Pure Stock---------------- 1.893 - 12.223 @ 115.18 STOCK 3-26-11

 

[S8ER01Z]

Ive been to Missouri (My 2nd home) tracks also and have never seen it. When my old A4 2000 WS6 went 12.6@112 with full bolt ons my friends mach went 12.74@109 with full bolt ons both on street tires. This was in MO of course. Ive run alot of stangs at irwindale, 5.0's, GT500s, 03 Cobras and Machs the only ones that give me trouble are the 5.0's. Even then not by much

Charger SRT8 vs 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 - YouTube

Obviously either you are not running in good conditions or the track just isn't that prepped....

You ran 12.6 @ 112 with full bolt ons....

vs

2001 Camaro SS
Auto, SLP Lid, Ported TB, Tuned, SLP LM2 Cat-back
12.61 at 110.2 MPH, 8.1 at 88.5 MPH, 1.94 60'

Not meant to be a pissing match but the whole reason 'well I haven't seen' causes such a stir is because unless you have a track like Atco near by you are likley not seeing the full potential out of cars that manage to have a good driver. I'm sure it doesn't need to be mentioned but most people can't drive for shit so add the two together and you have 'I've never seen better than xxx from xyz car' with no real foundation. I personally only see a handful of days at Cordova that are good enough to get record passes. Up until October I had never witnessed a 5.0 in the 12s stock. DA all summer sat above 2000 and most times 3500+... once the good weather rolled in anyone that could find the gas pedal was running 12s in them.

I'm just as guilty here, I try to look at the DA (seeing negative DA not producing results that are claimed online) but even I get wrapped up in what I've seen being reality and what I'm being told is a lie. Hard habit to break to be honest.

 

[S8ER01Z]

1/8th mile, 6spd vs auto?

FYI, there is a guy running 12.2s@115mph in a stock 2011 GT on this forum. It doesn't mean shit, take a stock car, run it countless times in perfect weather and you will eventually get freak ETs.

Pure Stock---------------- 1.893 - 12.223 @ 115.18 STOCK 3-26-11

Not to mention you can easily yank a filter, pull weight out, etc and no one on the internet has a clue. Surprise we havent seen a stock 11 pass yet to be honest. :shrug:

 

[OneBadWS6]

1/8th mile, 6spd vs auto?

FYI, there is a guy running 12.2s@115mph in a stock 2011 GT on this forum. It doesn't mean shit, take a stock car, run it countless times in perfect weather and you will eventually get freak ETs.

Pure Stock---------------- 1.893 - 12.223 @ 115.18 STOCK 3-26-11

True but its not a freak ET if more then one guy can replicate it

 

[holzmach]

who really cares about the 392 times stock?:shrug: even if it is high 12's or low 13's we all know with weight loss, bigs and littles, full bolts on they will be11's- low12's. with a cam heads intake they will hit 10's more than likely. so why care about stock time when we all know they will rtfo once they start getting serious mods:burnout:.

 

[ChiSVT]

Not to mention you can easily yank a filter, pull weight out, etc and no one on the internet has a clue. Surprise we havent seen a stock 11 pass yet to be honest. :shrug:

Yup, on-top of the people who aren't entirely honest. These are all self reported times on an internet forum.

Here's a guy claiming 12.00s stock.

[youtube_browser]GGw-NkSKu1s[/youtube_browser]

I think he's full of shit, but it's NO different than anyone else claiming their car is stock.

True but its not a freak ET if more then one guy can replicate it

They're all freak ETs. MM&FF ran 12.6s@113mph in 1800+ DA conditions, with enough seat time in ridiculously freak conditions both cars can achieve it.

2011s have trapped 112-113mph+ on numerous occasions, if someone wants to leave their car stock, run it over and over again in negative 10 million DA conditions they will get those kind of ETs. It doesn't make one platform faster than another, even though it is impressive.

 

[11GT50]

A 12.0x from a stock 5.0?

Horseshit.

You know it's funny, while the concept of being stock is seemingly a simple one, people's definitions of "stock" do differ. I'd be interested to see under the hood of this "stock" 5.0. I've seen plenty of people on various forums that think an exhaust, slicks and a tune is still "stock" so it wouldn't surprise me to see something similar with this car. At any rate, there's no way a stock 5.0 is running 12.0xs, even with mine shaft air, a factory freak and a hero behind the wheel.

 

[holzmach]

people do stretch it when it comes to "stock times." just like when someone posted "stock " boss traps 141 with only a kb. then, you see it had fuel upgrades,it was on 109, and had 3:31 gears. stock is stock, which means you dont touch anything. i think it is good to try and try till you get what you want, but even touching the air box, to me, means it dose not count.

 

[need4snake]

Um, boosted Cobra at high altitude vs. a normally aspirated challenger....

no contest, you could walk him bone stock.

 

[pho_phizzat]

Um, boosted Cobra at high altitude vs. a normally aspirated challenger....

no contest, you could walk him bone stock.

Did you not read this thread?

 

[musclefan21]

Challengers are ugly but comfy.

 

[Serpent]

If your powers numbers are for the Denver area, you probably have 100rwhp in addition to the ~700# weight advantage on him. I would have expected you to win by more than what you did.

Where did you get 700lbs from? OP has a vert cobra, 500lbs or less sounds about right.


Also there has been a bone stock srt8 392 challenger running 12.2. Guy has proof and a couple of witnesses, on skinny 245 stock rear tires too.

 

[GTSpartan]

Where did you get 700lbs from? OP has a vert cobra, 500lbs or less sounds about right.


Also there has been a bone stock srt8 392 challenger running 12.2. Guy has proof and a couple of witnesses, on skinny 245 stock rear tires too.

Figure the extra passenger and I bet 700# is closer than 500.

 

[assasinator]

For refrence

392 Fastest List
Notice the best time for a stock 392 is 12.253@113

01: brian@snl [email protected] 1.736 60' 392 A5 CAI. Catback, drag radials
02: SRT8Tech [email protected] 1.907 60' 392 A5 stock
03: Dad's Toy [email protected] 1.845 60' 392 A5 strut tower braces, sub frame connectors
04: indybill [email protected] 1.825 60' 392 A5 K&N, Cat Back
05: 04bluesrt4 [email protected] 1.967 60' 392 A5 K&N, Cat Back
06: Flying Dutchman [email protected] 2.033 60' A5 stock
07: KyHemiRT [email protected] 1.949 60' 392 A5 stock
08: bskylerj [email protected] 1.904 60' 392 A5 stock
09: DonP [email protected] 1.912 60' 392 A5 stock
10: Red Barron [email protected] 2.021 60' M6 Stock
11: hemi420 [email protected] 1.933 60' 392 M6 stock
12: Viper [email protected] 2.033 60' 392 M6 K&N
13: CrankCase [email protected] 2.007 60' M6 stock
14: SparkChicken [email protected] 2.080 60' 392 A5 stock
15: nevertoofast [email protected] 2.1492 60' 392 A5 K&N
16: MrBohica [email protected] 2.1011 60' 392 stock
17: GodsRodsHEMI [email protected] 2.059 60' 392 A5 stock
18: 555ss [email protected] 2.004 60' 392 M6 stock
19: Mayra [email protected] 2.161 60' 392 A5 stock
20: Litos [email protected] 2.119 60' 392 A5 stock

sorry, but i throw the BS 100' x 1000' flag for the srt8 tech guy,. he spouts his freaking mouth about all of his ford modular knowledge and how he's the 12.2 'stock' guy.

he is .4 faster than every other average car out there. bullcrap. i DO beleive they are faster than a 5.0 and SS by a small margin.

 

[Serpent]

sorry, but i throw the BS 100' x 1000' flag for the srt8 tech guy,. he spouts his freaking mouth about all of his ford modular knowledge and how he's the 12.2 'stock' guy.

he is .4 faster than every other average car out there. bullcrap. i DO beleive they are faster than a 5.0 and SS by a small margin.

Trust me man, I don't believe it either. Only way I would believe it is if he is able to replicate or be close to the time like maybe a 12.30 with witnesses and a video.
Otherwise I'll continue to call/raise BS flag, that is an awesome list to show just how UNBELIEVABLE that time is. Next fastest stock time is 12.630!

 

[SRT8tech]

sorry, but i throw the BS 100' x 1000' flag for the srt8 tech guy,. he spouts his freaking mouth about all of his ford modular knowledge and how he's the 12.2 'stock' guy.

he is .4 faster than every other average car out there. bullcrap. DO beleive they are faster than a 5.0 and SS by a small margin.

Really dude......you are an ass. There are at least 6 bone stock on the stock tire auto 392's running 12.2's that I know of. Hell, there is another guy in the fast list that ran a 12.2 stock. There are even more on the LX forums running 12.2's. Ive run several 12.2's, about 20 12.3's and many 12.4's. I even have a video of one of my 12.40 @ 114.8 runs. And I have my timeslip of my 12.2 run also. Stop yer bitchin assasinator. By the way, the next fastest time stock on that list is a 12.28. It has subframe connectors and strut tower braces that do not help with a 1/4 mile time. DUHH!!! And yeah, I know quite a bit about the Mod motor. So what. You were the one talking BS thinking I didnt know anything about Mustangs when in fact ive owned quite a bit of em.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5oRgzwU-Cg"]12.40 @ 114 392 Challenger 1/4 mile (in car) - YouTube[/nomedia]

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayvSRwAasmI"]12.25 @ 113.86 392 Challenger 1/4 mile time slip - YouTube[/nomedia]

 

[ChiSVT]

Yup, on-top of the people who aren't entirely honest. These are all self reported times on an internet forum.

Here's a guy claiming 12.00s stock.

[youtube_browser]GGw-NkSKu1s[/youtube_browser]

I think he's full of shit, but it's NO different than anyone else claiming their car is stock.



They're all freak ETs. MM&FF ran 12.6s@113mph in 1800+ DA conditions, with enough seat time in ridiculously freak conditions both cars can achieve it.

2011s have trapped 112-113mph+ on numerous occasions, if someone wants to leave their car stock, run it over and over again in negative 10 million DA conditions they will get those kind of ETs. It doesn't make one platform faster than another, even though it is impressive.

Really dude......you are an ass. There are at least 6 bone stock on the stock tire auto 392's running 12.2's that I know of. Hell, there is another guy in the fast list that ran a 12.2 stock. There are even more on the LX forums running 12.2's. Ive run several 12.2's, about 20 12.3's and many 12.4's. I even have a video of one of my 12.40 @ 114.8 runs. And I have my timeslip of my 12.2 run also. Stop yer bitchin assasinator. By the way, the next fastest time stock on that list is a 12.28. It has subframe connectors and strut tower braces that do not help with a 1/4 mile time. DUHH!!! He also ran a 12.2 WITHOUT them on the car. And yeah, I know quite a bit about the Mod motor. So what. You were the one talking BS thinking I didnt know anything about Mustangs when in fact ive owned quite a bit of em.

12.40 @ 114 392 Challenger 1/4 mile (in car) - YouTube

12.25 @ 113.86 392 Challenger 1/4 mile time slip - YouTube

All the same shit.

 

[SRT8tech]

All the same shit.

Would a very credible person well known in the Ford tuning community saying my car is bone stock be good enough???!!!

 

[S8ER01Z]

I still don't understand how yours runs 12.2 @ 113 and my buddies can only do 12.7 @ 110mph with mods. You must have some severe negative DA to play with or he just got a lemon.

 

[2011fiveliter]

I still don't understand how yours runs 12.2 @ 113 and my buddies can only do 12.7 @ 110mph with mods. You must have some severe negative DA to play with or he just got a lemon.

What mods are done to your buddies car. there is not much out there for the 392 yet. And still no tuning available for them. So if your buddy has a CAI, LT headers, TB, etc. It is not going to be very useful without a tune. Maybe that is why he is running at 12.7's.

Also, have to cosider the conditions your buddy ran in vs. SRT8TECH's conditions. I believe he ran in some pretty good DA when he pulled off his 12.2 time.