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Mach-E GT Launches With More Power Than V8 Powered Mustang GT

Discussion in 'Road Side Pub' started by CobraBob, May 2, 2021.

  1. SecondhandSnake

    SecondhandSnake Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Definitely true. But much like we saw on hybrids, (and not the 4th gear missing type), the motor is seldom the issue. Even things like the inverter are simple and robust enough they'll last long enough, and be cheap enough to replace. What's going to put a vehicle out of service is the battery and main computer. With the battery performance will degrade over time. Unless the reman process gets way more widespread and efficient, a battery replacement will probably determine when a car gets disposed of- when the replacement exceeds the value, it's gone. If we're lucky, maybe down the road companies will standardize on cells, but for now, proprietary designs are too profitable for them. Then the follow up is the computer. The cars are becoming increasingly reliant on a single computer for the entire vehicle, both powertrain and chassis. That means you're more at the mercy of something more akin to regular consumer electronics than the lower tech but more robust ECUs of today. When that's no longer supported, you're on thin ice (no pun.) I doubt that companies will spend the extra money to separate it into two modules, especially with the current chip crisis in mind. Though eventually I would anticipate new EV standalone systems to pop up.

    But still, it makes it much more like a consumer electronic in the end. It's like an iPhone. Most of the hardware will last, but when the battery is toast and the software is no longer supported, it's trash. And if you've seen the new Volvo EV commercial, it's marketed just like a new phone. All about software/features, UI looks like a phone, and even showing off the colors like a phone. Nothing about how they drive/feel. They're electrical appliances. No more, no less.
     
  2. IronSnake

    IronSnake Beers for the boys Established Member

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    Meh

    Sign me up for a Model 3 or Y. If my Crpyto booms, then sign me up for a model S.

    Ford Dealerships are historically awful with accepting new technology in training and culture. Also the quality of service is extremely inconsistent.
     
  3. blk02edge

    blk02edge Well-Known Member Established Member

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    MachE could go 0-60 instantly and Id still think it was a piece of piss designed for dudes in skirts
     
  4. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    Its complete vehicle ownership related and thats the major point.
     
  5. DaleM

    DaleM T$45GOATMAGAMen Established Member SVTP OG 4 Life Single Barrel Sirs

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    The guy that creates a fast swap battery change system wins.

    OK Bozos, stop clowning around.
     
  6. Kornilov

    Kornilov Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Holy shit, my curiosity got the best of me and I had to see for myself what kind of weak chinned, limp wristed faggot was excited about the Mach-e so I ventured over to mach e forums.com to peruse the posts and personalities. What a den of AIDs and sodomy that place is! The forum is full of blue state vermin from CA, NJ, and MD preening and virtue signaling about masks and electric 'cars'. A totally revolting forum populated by revolting scum!

    **** Biden
    **** Obama
    **** the Mach e
    **** 'BEV's
    and if you're OK with driving your dishwasher **** you too.
     
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  7. BrunotheBoxer

    BrunotheBoxer POWERLIFTING MASTER RACE Established Member

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    I don’t know who the **** you are but I like it.

    I can’t wait until the blue states literally implode into themselves and biden or the **** slampig tries to pass some law and redistribute monies from red states that are financially stable to shithole blue states that are ****in bleeding to death.
    I will revel at it from the comfort of my gas guzzling atmosphere destroying sleds that I will never give up for some **** that’s upset that cows fart.
    I hope the maskcels get sick from all the impurities they breath in every day trying to hide their uggo face from society and that some insane ex con that got released early from prison stabs them in the stomach and they die the slowest of deaths.
    Have a nice day. :)
     
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  8. BOOGIE MAN

    BOOGIE MAN Logic and Reason Established Member

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    That's just in Cali, bet you the #s are higher elsewhere

    "Nothing makes me question ALL of my life decisions like SVTP."

    Posts and likes are not mine.
     
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  9. HEMIHUNTER

    HEMIHUNTER Well-Known Member Established Member

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  10. CobraBob

    CobraBob Authorized Vendor Premium Member Established Member Single Barrel Sirs

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    You're right about the emphasis on features/software. My brother has a Tesla and the two things he talks about most are (1) acceleration, and (2) software features. It's loaded to the gills.
     
  11. OX1

    OX1 Active Member Established Member

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    And that range is not at typical rush hour highway speeds in jersey of 80+ these days, in 7 degree weather. with heat on full blast.
     
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  12. VRYALT3R3D

    VRYALT3R3D Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Okay then don't buy it.

    Obviously Ford knows what they are doing as the Mach E is one of the best selling EVs on the market now and Ford has a first mover advantage over their competition.

    This is the company Ford used to do market research on the types of EV buyers. Escalent | EVForward™


    Sales of electric vehicles are soaring on a percentage basis, but the numbers are still puny.

    Last year, only 1.4% of U.S. vehicle buyers leased or purchased an EV. With such low volume that means most automakers will struggle to make a fully accounted profit on EVs. Their only hope is to slash production costs or figure out how to get more people to buy.

    This is why a market segmentation survey of new car buyers by a company called Escalent is so interesting. It’s identified six different customer groups who currently do not own an EV and it provides insight as to what it might take to get them to buy a car with batteries instead of pistons.

    The first group is what they call Torchbearers. These are people deeply concerned about the environment, and who want to buy an EV, but they’re waiting for the right one. Some have brand loyalties to automakers which haven’t introduced an EV, or not the kind of model they want. Escalent says don’t spend too much time marketing to them because they’re already sold.

    Then there are what it calls Young Enthusiasts, who are after image and pleasure. Escalent says it’s not worth touting the environmental advantages of EVs to them, because while these young enthusiasts say they care about going green, they’re more responsive to styling and performance. And since they can get what they need from ICE vehicles, automakers need to explain why an EV would be even more exciting and rewarding. Importantly, these young enthusiasts comprise 14% of the car buying public.

    The next group is the Stewards. They are truly concerned about the environment, but they’re not convinced that EVs are ready for prime time, or at least not yet. Escalent says these are not car enthusiasts, so styling and head jerking acceleration will not appeal to them. Instead, automakers need to emphasize the reliability and durability of their EVs if they want the Stewards to put an EV on their shopping list.

    The biggest segment, which accounts for 25% of all new car purchases, is what Escalent calls Survivors. These are people who see life as full of problems and are not willing to experiment with something new until everyone else already has one. Even so, they have a household income over $100,000, so they have the ability to buy. But they’re not going to get an electric until EVs go mainstream.

    The toughest segment is what Escalent calls Skeptics. They don’t believe in global warming and they think EVs are stupid. You’re never going to convince them otherwise, so don’t bother to try.

    The last group is the Old Guard. This is the oldest, least ethnically diverse and most rural of buyers. Think of blue-collar, full-size pickup owners. This will be a hard group to convert to electric, but on the other hand they’re very pragmatic. They’ll buy something if it meets their needs. So, if an electric truck has better performance, can carry a bigger payload, tow heavier trailers and offer a lower cost of ownership, they could be interested.

    What I like about the Escalent survey is it dives far deeper into the psyche of car buyers than any other research I’ve seen. So far, all the other EV research has pretty much focused on the same thing: price, range and charging infrastructure. This survey shows there’s more to it than that. In fact, what Escalent found is that 85% of car buyers in the U.S. are homeowners, so they can charge at home, and are more interested in fast charging than long range.

    Last year there were 16 electric car models sold in the U.S. In about two years there will be more than 100. As I’ve written in this space before, I believe the industry is headed for an EV disaster because there will be too many electric models chasing too few buyers. Hopefully, the Escalent survey shows the way to bring more buyers into the fold.
     
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  13. GTSpartan

    GTSpartan Yield right!!!! Established Member

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    Slow your roll man, the pathetic and old Chevy Bolt sells just as many. The Mach E is on a 3 months sales decline as well, so it's not as hot as some of the news articles make it out to be.
     
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  14. Fat Boss

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    There sure are a lot of mouth breathers in here. Reminds me of the old farts that won't buy anything that doesn't have a carburetor on it.
     
  15. Rb0891

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    LMAO. Skeptics... I am not sure this "highly regarded" group understands the definition of a skeptic. Maybe they should have named that group something different by the way they define them. How dare we be skeptical about anything... they are the experts after all, along with Ford. Lol. Do you have the contact info for them so next time I buy a car, they can tell me which that I need? I wouldn't want to question it or figure it out for myself...

    They should have named them the "no way in hell" group...
     
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  16. gimmie11s

    gimmie11s Don’t be an idiot Established Member

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    LMFAO.... this post gave me a great chuckle.

    @Fat Boss has plans for racing stripes on his!! Bahahahahahahahahahaha. He oughta compliment those racing stripes with a fat, brown dong. That would complete the package--no pun intended.

     
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  17. BrunotheBoxer

    BrunotheBoxer POWERLIFTING MASTER RACE Established Member

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    Location checks out. Guaranteed double mask with a face shield and gloves and multiple vaccines to flatten dah curve.
     
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  18. BrunotheBoxer

    BrunotheBoxer POWERLIFTING MASTER RACE Established Member

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    Poverty post is approaching autismo levels previously thought not to be possible.
     
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  19. Fat Boss

    Fat Boss Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Wrong, just like about everything you ever post.
     
  20. gimmie11s

    gimmie11s Don’t be an idiot Established Member

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    I saw him on the freeway yesterday... being extra safe by himself in his truck, dreaming about dong-striped Mach-E's.

    extra-safe.jpg
     
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