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Killed a Z06 with a GOOD driver at Carlsbad...
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<blockquote data-quote="McRat" data-source="post: 437714" data-attributes="member: 4984"><p><em>Pat? Could you please post your driving impressions for us please?</em></p><p></p><p>Why sure! Anything for my fellow gearheads!:</p><p></p><p>_____________________________________________</p><p><em>Reprinted with permission from Mental Health Quarterly...</em></p><p></p><p>I've never driven a Cobra before, or any Ford that was quicker than 15 seconds in the quarter. While I had raced against several, they had never lived up to expectations. Are they like Supras and Vipers and mearly dyno queens? Often too much HP hurts ETs more than it helps. I decided to find out personally.</p><p></p><p>Thanks to Leon (46Stang), I got to do a couple of passes in his mod'd 2003 Cobra. I'll have Leon post the mods, but it has exhaust, K&N, programming and pulley if I remember right.</p><p></p><p>First I get in. The seat is a high quality racing bucket. Has plenty of adjustments. It's easier to get in and out of a Vette, but that's true of nearly all motorized vehicles. Ergo's are good EXCEPT the shifter is about 6" too far forward. By tilting the back of the seat to full upright, it becomes nothing more than quirk, and is acceptable. </p><p></p><p>Car starts up easy and idles smooth. Does not give any indication of high performance. My Ford Van has more lope. Exhaust note is very sweet. When you rev it, it starts to sound like serious business is going on under the hood. Revs very quick.</p><p></p><p>I drive up to the lanes. I cannot comment on handling other than to say it rides smooth over the rough Carlbad pavement. Car feels very solid and is quite roomy compared to Fbodies and Vettes.</p><p></p><p>Now comes the moment of truth. My wife Kathy (11 Second Momma) is going to run against me heads up. I pull in front of the water box (car is wearing slicks on back), and try to burnout. OPPSS!!! Traction Control is on. It's reverse of the Fbody and Vette and there is no instrument cluster light indicating it's status. My bad. I turn it off and try again. I didn't use water because I wanted to see how it would do without. I rev to 6000, drop the clutch, and just clean off the tires. Now I stage. The front tires are hard for me to judge, but I successfully stage.</p><p></p><p>On the third yellow let the clutch out quickly but do not drop it. I estimate I launched at 4500. The tires hazed up to 5000 and then grabbed (1.73 60'), I shift into 2nd at 6300 to allow for tach lag, and it starts to move out. I hold onto 2nd too long and tag the limiter as I pushed into 3rd. Third is the power gear in this car, and it really moves out. Again I smack the limiter before going into 4th HARD. My MPH suffers badly.</p><p></p><p>It is interesting to note that when you shift, it bogs like a turbo car. Apparently there is a bleed off valve that dumps the boost when you lift (I did not powershift).</p><p></p><p>The result?</p><p>[code]</p><p> Pat Kat</p><p> Cobra Vette</p><p>R/T 0.554 0.368</p><p>60' 1.735 1.738</p><p>1/8 7.673 7.745</p><p>MPH 90.35 90.22</p><p>1/4 11.952 12.008</p><p>MPH 113.18 115.43</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p>SO... I got to smoke my victory cigar! WOO! HOO!!</p><p></p><p>Handling down the 1/4 was shaky but controllable, nothing like the rock-steady Corvette, but this is mostly due to slicks on the back and Eagle F1's on the front. Not a good combo, but not white knuckles either.</p><p></p><p>For some odd reason the engine turned itself off after the pass and had to be restarted to get down the return road. I've read about this on the Ford boards, and appears to be a common bug on the 03's.</p><p></p><p>I ran a second pass in his car, but missed the 3-4 HARSE. Only ran 12.5. I also experimented with shifting at 6000 during the second pass, and it was slower at all segments. It loves to rev. </p><p></p><p>My verdict? I'm guessing the reason I'm not seeing better track results is the location of the shifter, and the drivers not reving up to the limit. But let's get honest: I've seen more Vipers run 13.1-12.9 than 11's. I've seen more Z06's run 13.1-12.9 than 11's. Can the cars do it? Sure with the right driver and conditions. Cheap, simple mods (true "bolt-on") turn the Cobra into an easy 11 second ride with the right driver. The claims are NOT inflated, it's just hard for many folk to deal with that much HP. In my own opinion, the Cobra appears to take more "finesse" than the Vette or the Fbody, which can only be gained by seat-time.</p><p></p><p>Like I've always said, "On any car that runs quicker than 13.0, driver experience is more important than HP". </p><p></p><p>Thanks Leon!! :beer: It was a hellava ride! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="McRat, post: 437714, member: 4984"] [i]Pat? Could you please post your driving impressions for us please?[/i] Why sure! Anything for my fellow gearheads!: _____________________________________________ [i]Reprinted with permission from Mental Health Quarterly...[/i] I've never driven a Cobra before, or any Ford that was quicker than 15 seconds in the quarter. While I had raced against several, they had never lived up to expectations. Are they like Supras and Vipers and mearly dyno queens? Often too much HP hurts ETs more than it helps. I decided to find out personally. Thanks to Leon (46Stang), I got to do a couple of passes in his mod'd 2003 Cobra. I'll have Leon post the mods, but it has exhaust, K&N, programming and pulley if I remember right. First I get in. The seat is a high quality racing bucket. Has plenty of adjustments. It's easier to get in and out of a Vette, but that's true of nearly all motorized vehicles. Ergo's are good EXCEPT the shifter is about 6" too far forward. By tilting the back of the seat to full upright, it becomes nothing more than quirk, and is acceptable. Car starts up easy and idles smooth. Does not give any indication of high performance. My Ford Van has more lope. Exhaust note is very sweet. When you rev it, it starts to sound like serious business is going on under the hood. Revs very quick. I drive up to the lanes. I cannot comment on handling other than to say it rides smooth over the rough Carlbad pavement. Car feels very solid and is quite roomy compared to Fbodies and Vettes. Now comes the moment of truth. My wife Kathy (11 Second Momma) is going to run against me heads up. I pull in front of the water box (car is wearing slicks on back), and try to burnout. OPPSS!!! Traction Control is on. It's reverse of the Fbody and Vette and there is no instrument cluster light indicating it's status. My bad. I turn it off and try again. I didn't use water because I wanted to see how it would do without. I rev to 6000, drop the clutch, and just clean off the tires. Now I stage. The front tires are hard for me to judge, but I successfully stage. On the third yellow let the clutch out quickly but do not drop it. I estimate I launched at 4500. The tires hazed up to 5000 and then grabbed (1.73 60'), I shift into 2nd at 6300 to allow for tach lag, and it starts to move out. I hold onto 2nd too long and tag the limiter as I pushed into 3rd. Third is the power gear in this car, and it really moves out. Again I smack the limiter before going into 4th HARD. My MPH suffers badly. It is interesting to note that when you shift, it bogs like a turbo car. Apparently there is a bleed off valve that dumps the boost when you lift (I did not powershift). The result? [code] Pat Kat Cobra Vette R/T 0.554 0.368 60' 1.735 1.738 1/8 7.673 7.745 MPH 90.35 90.22 1/4 11.952 12.008 MPH 113.18 115.43 [/code] SO... I got to smoke my victory cigar! WOO! HOO!! Handling down the 1/4 was shaky but controllable, nothing like the rock-steady Corvette, but this is mostly due to slicks on the back and Eagle F1's on the front. Not a good combo, but not white knuckles either. For some odd reason the engine turned itself off after the pass and had to be restarted to get down the return road. I've read about this on the Ford boards, and appears to be a common bug on the 03's. I ran a second pass in his car, but missed the 3-4 HARSE. Only ran 12.5. I also experimented with shifting at 6000 during the second pass, and it was slower at all segments. It loves to rev. My verdict? I'm guessing the reason I'm not seeing better track results is the location of the shifter, and the drivers not reving up to the limit. But let's get honest: I've seen more Vipers run 13.1-12.9 than 11's. I've seen more Z06's run 13.1-12.9 than 11's. Can the cars do it? Sure with the right driver and conditions. Cheap, simple mods (true "bolt-on") turn the Cobra into an easy 11 second ride with the right driver. The claims are NOT inflated, it's just hard for many folk to deal with that much HP. In my own opinion, the Cobra appears to take more "finesse" than the Vette or the Fbody, which can only be gained by seat-time. Like I've always said, "On any car that runs quicker than 13.0, driver experience is more important than HP". Thanks Leon!! :beer: It was a hellava ride! :eek: [/QUOTE]
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