My wife decided she wanted a new outfit - specifically another little black dress and heels.
Sparing you the long awful details, I wanted to see what people thought (justified or not, appropriate or not, etc) on what occurred at JCP, which was about the 3rd store we went to. My wife had chosen 6 or so dresses to try on and we walked back to the dressing rooms.
As most of you may know from helping your wives/gf, these dresses are nearly impossible for ladies to zip up alone since the zipper runs from the low back to the neck - so my job was to simply sit down in the dressing room with my wife, zip and unzip her dresses, help maneuver in/out of those that didn't fit good, and just give my opinions (in fact I was mostly quiet with the exception of the occasional opinion on the dress)...and that's exactly what I did up until I hear a knock on the door.
"Sir, I need you to remove yourself from the dressing room."
"Just a moment," I said "My wife is still partially undressed, I'm just helping her with her outfits".
"Sir, I need you to come out immediately. Some other women may find this uncomfortable."
Meanwhile, in just her bra and panties, my wife scootches to the side and shoos me away fearing it'll escalate. I shake my head and leave.
Then the lady smiles and says "I'm sorry sir, I just can't have you back here. Some ladies might find it uncomfortable."
So, I start to explain I was simply trying to help my wife get into the dresses which are impossible to zip up by herself, that the rooms are completely private (I couldn't spy on anyone if I wanted to), and that perhaps my wife found it uncomfortable to have to walk 20' from the dressing room to the retail area with her dress unzipped (she doesn't but I was attempting to make a point). She said an associate would be more than happy to help her zip the outfits - well none were around when we got back there, otherwise I'm sure they would have stopped by to begin with.
I lost my ability to really put up an argument in my anger, but in hind sight, I'm thinking its really flawed logic. Its basically an enclosed room, no different than me standing inside any other room a lady might be naked in next door - doesn't mean I can see in. They have a women a restroom directly beside a men's restroom, also divided by a single wall - what's the difference? And why is it that its uncomfortable for men to be there, but I'm assuming they don't screen women to check if they're lesbian or not. What if we saw a lesbian couple back there, I bet we wouldnt be able to request their removal. Surely, any obvious butch headed lesbo should be banned from that area too. And who's to say my wife not just as uncomfortable with having a random lady zip her dress as anyone else is to having a male in a neighboring stall.
Furthermore, we may have been in the women's section, but there are no signs saying "no men in dressing rooms" and in fact besides being in the women's section, the dressing rooms are just generically titled. Perhaps other stores or a bit more modern than JCP or Von Maur, but you go to Express and the changing rooms are right there to see with doors 24" off the ground and open to the ceiling.
We weren't doing anything hanky panky, no giggling, nothing sexual at all - I just helped my wife zip up dresses and give opinions on the outfit saving her a long walk.
What do you think? Was the store appropriate or is it just a stupid rule?
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Sparing you the long awful details, I wanted to see what people thought (justified or not, appropriate or not, etc) on what occurred at JCP, which was about the 3rd store we went to. My wife had chosen 6 or so dresses to try on and we walked back to the dressing rooms.
As most of you may know from helping your wives/gf, these dresses are nearly impossible for ladies to zip up alone since the zipper runs from the low back to the neck - so my job was to simply sit down in the dressing room with my wife, zip and unzip her dresses, help maneuver in/out of those that didn't fit good, and just give my opinions (in fact I was mostly quiet with the exception of the occasional opinion on the dress)...and that's exactly what I did up until I hear a knock on the door.
"Sir, I need you to remove yourself from the dressing room."
"Just a moment," I said "My wife is still partially undressed, I'm just helping her with her outfits".
"Sir, I need you to come out immediately. Some other women may find this uncomfortable."
Meanwhile, in just her bra and panties, my wife scootches to the side and shoos me away fearing it'll escalate. I shake my head and leave.
Then the lady smiles and says "I'm sorry sir, I just can't have you back here. Some ladies might find it uncomfortable."
So, I start to explain I was simply trying to help my wife get into the dresses which are impossible to zip up by herself, that the rooms are completely private (I couldn't spy on anyone if I wanted to), and that perhaps my wife found it uncomfortable to have to walk 20' from the dressing room to the retail area with her dress unzipped (she doesn't but I was attempting to make a point). She said an associate would be more than happy to help her zip the outfits - well none were around when we got back there, otherwise I'm sure they would have stopped by to begin with.
I lost my ability to really put up an argument in my anger, but in hind sight, I'm thinking its really flawed logic. Its basically an enclosed room, no different than me standing inside any other room a lady might be naked in next door - doesn't mean I can see in. They have a women a restroom directly beside a men's restroom, also divided by a single wall - what's the difference? And why is it that its uncomfortable for men to be there, but I'm assuming they don't screen women to check if they're lesbian or not. What if we saw a lesbian couple back there, I bet we wouldnt be able to request their removal. Surely, any obvious butch headed lesbo should be banned from that area too. And who's to say my wife not just as uncomfortable with having a random lady zip her dress as anyone else is to having a male in a neighboring stall.
Furthermore, we may have been in the women's section, but there are no signs saying "no men in dressing rooms" and in fact besides being in the women's section, the dressing rooms are just generically titled. Perhaps other stores or a bit more modern than JCP or Von Maur, but you go to Express and the changing rooms are right there to see with doors 24" off the ground and open to the ceiling.
We weren't doing anything hanky panky, no giggling, nothing sexual at all - I just helped my wife zip up dresses and give opinions on the outfit saving her a long walk.
What do you think? Was the store appropriate or is it just a stupid rule?
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