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It's Official! 2020 GT500 Makes 760HP
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<blockquote data-quote="Cman01" data-source="post: 16309397" data-attributes="member: 138028"><p>@ <a href="https://www.svtperformance.com/members/tt335ci03cobra.68944/" target="_blank"><u>tt335ci03cobra</u></a> you know this info but for those that don't "Terminators" earned their nickname because at the time its immediate competition 4th gen F-bodies with LS1 power (305hp or 320hp SS/Firehawk) and C5 Vettes (Z06) with 385-405hp LS6 were NA vs. the Mustang being SC. It was also underrated (most were dyno-ing its advertised HP # at the rear wheels so really they were making like 450hp at the engine, a crazy # at the time).</p><p></p><p>Colletti knew there was no way in hell regular rods would live inside a boosted 4.6 so that's why they got the killer Manley rods in them much to the distain of the Ford marketing types and bean counters but because of the intake fiasco with the 99 Cobra they didn't want a repeat of that episode so the Manley rods stayed.</p><p></p><p>Compared to its immediate competition as mentioned above it was a killer package, then the C6 Z06 showed up and it was over for the boosted Cobra. The heavy Cobra with stock boosted power was no match for a lighter, more powerful NA Z06 packing 505hp (around 440-450 @ the wheels stock), better handling and aero.</p><p></p><p>Sure, a driver mod stock Termi should take down a stock C6Z with a driver that sucked or napping but if the Z driver was on the ball...………..not a chance. It was easy to add power to a Termi and why most were modded and even then you still have to overcome the heavier weight a Termi has over a C6Z stock or mildly modded.</p><p></p><p>Termis hold their value mostly due to the fact of the 2 year run, and that engine with the Manley rods vs. Camaros and Vettes of the same years. Even the 13/14 500's at the moment don't hold the % of value that the 03-04 Cobras currently have (that may change however in the near future...……………...and I probably got rid of my 13 a tad early).</p><p></p><p>It's funny you say above in your post that there isn't any way to substantially reduce weight in this car...…………..earlier posts from you have you saying "it's easy to lose 500lbs. out of this car" so which is it???? I'll tell you, it's not easy to lose the weight.</p><p></p><p>For the new 500, again I keep repeating myself the performance stats need to be revealed then the car will be judged by the car buying public as to whether it delivers or not. My wife had mentioned to me...…………"if this car put up the #'s they would be bragging about it and not keeping it a secret for this long". It's as if they are still trying to wring out what more they can out of it and time is running out meanwhile a lot has changed in the 5+ years since the 13/14 cars were out (Demon/Hellcat redeye, ZR1 etc etc).</p><p></p><p>This car will hold its value and place in history only if it delivers and model year production is kept low, otherwise it's just a boosted Mustang and there's tons of them driving around making the same or more power. It's factory engineered mind you over afkt/home modded but there's nothing new here with this car if it doesn't deliver (other than the DCT and CF wheels).</p><p></p><p>Like I said, I went new ZR1. I had all the stats of what the car is capable of doing before buying (and was lucky to find one late in the model year here in Canada), a 1 year production run, most powerful and the last FE-RD Vette that is made still with a manual trans, my new car should hold its value pretty well, most likely better than this new GT500.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cman01, post: 16309397, member: 138028"] @ [URL='https://www.svtperformance.com/members/tt335ci03cobra.68944/'][U]tt335ci03cobra[/U][/URL] you know this info but for those that don't "Terminators" earned their nickname because at the time its immediate competition 4th gen F-bodies with LS1 power (305hp or 320hp SS/Firehawk) and C5 Vettes (Z06) with 385-405hp LS6 were NA vs. the Mustang being SC. It was also underrated (most were dyno-ing its advertised HP # at the rear wheels so really they were making like 450hp at the engine, a crazy # at the time). Colletti knew there was no way in hell regular rods would live inside a boosted 4.6 so that's why they got the killer Manley rods in them much to the distain of the Ford marketing types and bean counters but because of the intake fiasco with the 99 Cobra they didn't want a repeat of that episode so the Manley rods stayed. Compared to its immediate competition as mentioned above it was a killer package, then the C6 Z06 showed up and it was over for the boosted Cobra. The heavy Cobra with stock boosted power was no match for a lighter, more powerful NA Z06 packing 505hp (around 440-450 @ the wheels stock), better handling and aero. Sure, a driver mod stock Termi should take down a stock C6Z with a driver that sucked or napping but if the Z driver was on the ball...………..not a chance. It was easy to add power to a Termi and why most were modded and even then you still have to overcome the heavier weight a Termi has over a C6Z stock or mildly modded. Termis hold their value mostly due to the fact of the 2 year run, and that engine with the Manley rods vs. Camaros and Vettes of the same years. Even the 13/14 500's at the moment don't hold the % of value that the 03-04 Cobras currently have (that may change however in the near future...……………...and I probably got rid of my 13 a tad early). It's funny you say above in your post that there isn't any way to substantially reduce weight in this car...…………..earlier posts from you have you saying "it's easy to lose 500lbs. out of this car" so which is it???? I'll tell you, it's not easy to lose the weight. For the new 500, again I keep repeating myself the performance stats need to be revealed then the car will be judged by the car buying public as to whether it delivers or not. My wife had mentioned to me...…………"if this car put up the #'s they would be bragging about it and not keeping it a secret for this long". It's as if they are still trying to wring out what more they can out of it and time is running out meanwhile a lot has changed in the 5+ years since the 13/14 cars were out (Demon/Hellcat redeye, ZR1 etc etc). This car will hold its value and place in history only if it delivers and model year production is kept low, otherwise it's just a boosted Mustang and there's tons of them driving around making the same or more power. It's factory engineered mind you over afkt/home modded but there's nothing new here with this car if it doesn't deliver (other than the DCT and CF wheels). Like I said, I went new ZR1. I had all the stats of what the car is capable of doing before buying (and was lucky to find one late in the model year here in Canada), a 1 year production run, most powerful and the last FE-RD Vette that is made still with a manual trans, my new car should hold its value pretty well, most likely better than this new GT500. [/QUOTE]
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