Heat extractor hood. (Yes more)

[Blkkbgt]

After making a few phone calls yesterday I found out that the 99-04 guys will probably never see a bolt on Tiger Racing hood. From what I gather parts are being made again but anything new is not on the back burner but rather has fallen behind the stove. This is due to the unfortunate passing of Paul Brown from what I was told (RIP).

This was the hood I was holding out for. Finding out that we will probably never see one got me looking into alternatives for heat extraction. I have narrowed it down to two options.

1. The Steeda Q400 hood with open louvers. There was a thread about this some time ago and the consensus was that opening up the louvers should work but there may be some modifications required such as a small 1/2in lip at the front. For the few who may not know what it looks like Steeda 1999-04 Mustang Fiberglass Cowl Hood w/ Louvers - Made in the USA.

2. The Saleen Extreme hood. This hood looks very similar to the Tiger Racing hood but with smaller and less vents. You can check it out here 1999-2004 Mustang TruFiber A70 Saleen Extreme Style Hood.

I am leaning towards the Saleen hood because it is close to the Tiger Hood and I know it works. The Saleen hood won’t be as efficient but I think it will do better than the Steeda piece.

So out of these two option what would you choose?

 

[rickdb]

Maier racing hood!

Take a look at the maier racing 99-04 sn-95 hood on the 2001 gt in the "maier mustangs" you tube video in the autocross section! They make it in fiberglass or carbon fiber, and is currently available.

 

[Blkkbgt]

That hood looks like a modified terminator hood. I doubt it works very good based on things I've read. Also I can't find it on their site.

 

[rickdb]

Maier hood

Most of the pieces including the hood, just recently completed and "not" updated on the maier site with new picture of car and description of pieces. As far as "not" working very well, all i can tell you is that the temps went way down according to my stock gauge! Yes, i know that this may not be the most accurate as far as a reading but between the vented hood and the vented front fender, temps definately went way down. The car has a k.b. Blown 2v. The car has not been tracked, only autocrossed but on "hot" northern california days; wether stopped in traffic or hot lapping at a event, the temps have definately gone down.

 

[Blkkbgt]

Thanks. I'll look into it and give them a call to check on price.

 

[LilRoush]

Most of the pieces including the hood, just recently completed and "not" updated on the maier site with new picture of car and description of pieces. As far as "not" working very well, all i can tell you is that the temps went way down according to my stock gauge! Yes, i know that this may not be the most accurate as far as a reading but between the vented hood and the vented front fender, temps definately went way down. The car has a k.b. Blown 2v. The car has not been tracked, only autocrossed but on "hot" northern california days; wether stopped in traffic or hot lapping at a event, the temps have definately gone down.

If it kept the temps down on your gauge, was your car overheating/operating higher than normal prior to the hood? What thermostat are you using?

 

[racebronco2]

I guess you never did a search. If you would've you would have seen countless threads on the hoods i make. There are also threads on making the tiger racing hood work and adding hinges.

Blkbgt

That hood looks like a modified terminator hood. I doubt it works very good based on things I've read. Also I can't find it on their site.

What have you read that makes you think a modded Terminator hood will not work. I have made 4 hoods so far and they all work while open tracking and at high speed events. I have data that proves they work.

Most of the pieces including the hood, just recently completed and "not" updated on the maier site with new picture of car and description of pieces. As far as "not" working very well, all i can tell you is that the temps went way down according to my stock gauge! Yes, i know that this may not be the most accurate as far as a reading but between the vented hood and the vented front fender, temps definately went way down. The car has a k.b. Blown 2v. The car has not been tracked, only autocrossed but on "hot" northern california days; wether stopped in traffic or hot lapping at a event, the temps have definately gone down.

Like what was hinted your car must have been running hot. I would like to know since you have a new egde in which it has been known for years that the gauges are only switches and no way are accurate except cold and overheating. The temps can only go down as far as the thermostat opening temp is which is somewhere around 190*. The fans should kick in some where around 210* depending on where you tuner set them at. If you go into the car's diagnostics you will be able to get real time temps in Celcius. Let us know what the temps are since we are interested in the cooling mods. Please give us actual numbers, temps "went way down" is not accurate.

 

[Blkkbgt]

I guess you never did a search. If you would've you would have seen countless threads on the hoods i make. There are also threads on making the tiger racing hood work and adding hinges.

Blkbgt

What have you read that makes you think a modded Terminator hood will not work. I have made 4 hoods so far and they all work while open tracking and at high speed events. I have data that proves they work.

Actually I have done plenty of searching and am familiar with the hoods you make. I was in a rush when I made that post. What I ment to say was that I have yet to see a cobra hood modified in that manner that works. To me that hood looks like they simply rivited some louvers to the hood. I have seen this done on a few cobra hoods but have yet to hear of one significantly lowering under hood temps.

The only info I can find about making a tiger hood into a bolt on piece is where a guy took a tiger hood and mated it with a stock hood. When I called around town I couldn't find a shop willing to take on the work so I gave up on that route.

 

[rickdb]

i guess you never did a search. If you would've you would have seen countless threads on the hoods i make. There are also threads on making the tiger racing hood work and adding hinges.

Blkbgt

what have you read that makes you think a modded terminator hood will not work. I have made 4 hoods so far and they all work while open tracking and at high speed events. I have data that proves they work.



Like what was hinted your car must have been running hot. I would like to know since you have a new egde in which it has been known for years that the gauges are only switches and no way are accurate except cold and overheating. The temps can only go down as far as the thermostat opening temp is which is somewhere around 190*. The fans should kick in some where around 210* depending on where you tuner set them at. If you go into the car's diagnostics you will be able to get real time temps in celcius. Let us know what the temps are since we are interested in the cooling mods. Please give us actual numbers, temps "went way down" is not accurate.

no, the car was not running "hot" or has it ever gone into limp mode because of heat. I have gradually up-graded parts in the hopes of tracking the car soon! I have read all your posts on cooling for your cobra/sn-95. The only thing i have not up-graded yet is gauges. (i know go figure!) that's next! As i already stated, i based what i said about dropping temps off the stock temp gauge; (not very accurate). Until i go into the cars diagnostics at the next event, that's the only info i have. Remember, 5-10 laps at an autocross event in the heat is totally different than a 30+ minute session on a road coarse in the heat! I am definately trying to help put together a (package) of pieces for maier racing that most definately are functional for the user/cost effective/ look half-way decent! Any help/suggestions are much appreciated.

 

[racebronco2]

Actually I have done plenty of searching and am familiar with the hoods you make. I was in a rush when I made that post. What I ment to say was that I have yet to see a cobra hood modified in that manner that works. To me that hood looks like they simply rivited some louvers to the hood. I have seen this done on a few cobra hoods but have yet to hear of one significantly lowering under hood temps.

The only info I can find about making a tiger hood into a bolt on piece is where a guy took a tiger hood and mated it with a stock hood. When I called around town I couldn't find a shop willing to take on the work so I gave up on that route.

There are shops out there, a friend just had the Tiger racing hood grafted onto his hood.

There is another thread in this forum that a member added hinges to the Tiger racing hood.

If some one wanted to do the grafting on there hood they could. Just separate the stock hood carefully and use body panel adhesive to bond the two together.

There have been a few people that have used the GT500 hood insert on their sn95 cars. Look over at corner-carvers.com.

 

[racebronco2]

no, the car was not running "hot" or has it ever gone into limp mode because of heat. I have gradually up-graded parts in the hopes of tracking the car soon! I have read all your posts on cooling for your cobra/sn-95. The only thing i have not up-graded yet is gauges. (i know go figure!) that's next! As i already stated, i based what i said about dropping temps off the stock temp gauge; (not very accurate). Until i go into the cars diagnostics at the next event, that's the only info i have. Remember, 5-10 laps at an autocross event in the heat is totally different than a 30+ minute session on a road coarse in the heat! I am definately trying to help put together a (package) of pieces for maier racing that most definately are functional for the user/cost effective/ look half-way decent! Any help/suggestions are much appreciated.

I do thank you for your input on the cooling mods. Let us know how it works. At one event i even taped up the vents to get an accurate temps on the same day same track so you might consider doing the same.

I assume the silver new edge is your car?

 

[Blkkbgt]

There are shops out there, a friend just had the Tiger racing hood grafted onto his hood.

There is another thread in this forum that a member added hinges to the Tiger racing hood.

If some one wanted to do the grafting on there hood they could. Just separate the stock hood carefully and use body panel adhesive to bond the two together.

There have been a few people that have used the GT500 hood insert on their sn95 cars. Look over at corner-carvers.com.

Why the heck can't I find a shop here that is willing to do that kind of work then? It's frustrating because I know it can be done. The shops around here flat out seem scared when I talk to them about it.

I can't find that thread about adding hinges to a tiger racing hood. Got a link by chance?

I have seen that GT500 hood insert mod done over and over and honestly I don't see myself doing it for a few reasons. The biggest being that I think the other options out there will work better.

 

[rickdb]

i do thank you for your input on the cooling mods. Let us know how it works. At one event i even taped up the vents to get an accurate temps on the same day same track so you might consider doing the same.

I assume the silver new edge is your car?

yes it is. You know as well as i do that our cars can run with the best of them wether autocrossing of roadracing (depending on driver)! I am just trying to bridge that gap with functional/affordable pieces thru maier racing. I hope mike maier (reigning national cp champion) puts together the affordable sla set-up for the sn-95 he can put together. Carlos, any info/suggestions," maybe" even product testing would be appreciated! Call mike,bill, or jonathen (510) 581-7600.

 

[racebronco2]

There was also a guy whom used the stock spindle to design his own SLA, weouldn't you know it i can find that thread or the one with the tiger racing hood that used stock hinges. The SLA spindle was part of another thread that the guy posted pictures of. The Tiger Racing hood i believe was done by 99COBRA2881. You should contact him.

BLKKBGT the place that grafted the hoods is located in santa clarita, not sure where you live.

By the way this was over a year ago, Paul told me his hoods were not OEM quality. My friend that did have his hood grafted onto his stock hood It did not fit very well. My friend has an 01 cobra and there is a gap between the hood and the horns of the bumper cover. The hood is also a little shorter in length than the stock hood. My friend had to go over to the body shop to tell them where to place it because they didn't want the responsibility of the owner not liking the placement of the upper shell.