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<blockquote data-quote="Junior00" data-source="post: 16039833" data-attributes="member: 30475"><p>Agreed...on the energy reduction but not on the .22lr comparison, which is why I pointed out your original comment. For instance,</p><p></p><p>Subsonic 9mm 147gr(9.52g) @ 1050fps = 488j</p><p>Subsonic 5.56 120gr(7.78g) @ 1050fps = 399j</p><p>Subsonic .22lr 60gr(3.88g) @ 950fps = 162j* & @ 1050fps = 200j (Theor.)</p><p>High Velocity .22lr 40gr(2.59g) @ 1200fps = 175j</p><p>*Used Aguila's published numbers because I don't know of anyone who reloads rimfire, or anyone who pushes it faster.</p><p></p><p>Even a lighter subsonic 5.56 (77gr) is ~1.5x the energy of high velocity 22lr. While the energies we're talking here are minuscule in comparison to a larger caliber rifle, it is worth noting. If you want to discount the 5.56 subsonic as unremarkable and of no use, then the 9mm subsonic as used in covert operations is also by that same token. I know where you're coming from though, it's more a question of why when you can suppress larger calibers more easily. </p><p></p><p>The 300blk came more out of a function of reliability. 5.56 subs simply don't cycle a semi easily, not to mention that the 300 provides more energy in the same package among other things. When we talk reloading, it becomes more challenging as well, especially for the beginner as most probably don't have the appropriate scales or won't take the appropriate time to ensure consistent loads when you're already using such small amounts of powder.</p><p></p><p>Either way, for most of us, it's all for the fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Junior00, post: 16039833, member: 30475"] Agreed...on the energy reduction but not on the .22lr comparison, which is why I pointed out your original comment. For instance, Subsonic 9mm 147gr(9.52g) @ 1050fps = 488j Subsonic 5.56 120gr(7.78g) @ 1050fps = 399j Subsonic .22lr 60gr(3.88g) @ 950fps = 162j* & @ 1050fps = 200j (Theor.) High Velocity .22lr 40gr(2.59g) @ 1200fps = 175j *Used Aguila's published numbers because I don't know of anyone who reloads rimfire, or anyone who pushes it faster. Even a lighter subsonic 5.56 (77gr) is ~1.5x the energy of high velocity 22lr. While the energies we're talking here are minuscule in comparison to a larger caliber rifle, it is worth noting. If you want to discount the 5.56 subsonic as unremarkable and of no use, then the 9mm subsonic as used in covert operations is also by that same token. I know where you're coming from though, it's more a question of why when you can suppress larger calibers more easily. The 300blk came more out of a function of reliability. 5.56 subs simply don't cycle a semi easily, not to mention that the 300 provides more energy in the same package among other things. When we talk reloading, it becomes more challenging as well, especially for the beginner as most probably don't have the appropriate scales or won't take the appropriate time to ensure consistent loads when you're already using such small amounts of powder. Either way, for most of us, it's all for the fun! [/QUOTE]
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