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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 16259932" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>That’s all awd Cars. The gt500 is rwd with a known 3.5 0-60.</p><p></p><p>Take into account the gt500 is literally 1.3 full seconds slower to 60 miles per hour than the Tesla. 10.8@125 with 2.275 0-60 as per motortrend. Yet, it closes the rest of that gap to .4 seconds behind in just the remaining 60-100-0. Against a 790hp 125mph car.... it CLOSED the gap. This to me verifies the gt500 traps well over high 120’s and into almost mid 130’s. How else do you close .6 seconds? Braking? Maybe it’s got .3 in braking on a p100d... maybe. That leaves .3 seconds 60-100mph on an all electric high torque 791hp rocket ship accelerating hard...</p><p></p><p>Let’s go back to gas vs gas/(tiny electric)</p><p></p><p>Compare it to the 573hp* (500hp... nice slip there) 3800lbs ‘17 nsx.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590668[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>This means the nsx is about .4 faster to 60mph.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590669[/ATTACH]</p><p>11.3@125 means the gt500 is Waaaay higher than high 120’s. You don’t recoup 4/10th and then put .575 seconds on an 11.25 car in a 1/4 mile with 3mph on top. No way period. Anyone who’s been to a track day knows this. You need minimum 7 to honestly about 10mph to do that. You don’t catch 3 cars and put 3 cars with 3mph at the trap.</p><p></p><p>To reiterate more clearly, this means the gt500 (assuming a 10.75 1/4) recoups that .4 loss to 60mph, and reaches the quarter mile some .575 seconds ahead of the nsx. I get 133-134mph needed to do that on paper. It’s about the same difference as a gt350 vs a c43amg-4matic. Example</p><p></p><p>#######example:</p><p>Gt350 ran 12.4@118 (source caranddriver identical time new and at 40k miles)</p><p><a href="https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a23083757/2017-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-reliability-update-3/" target="_blank">2017 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 – 40,000 Mile Evaluation</a></p><p></p><p>2017 C43amg-4matic ran 0-60 in 4.1 and 12.7@110 1/4.</p><p></p><p>Obviously not a perfect comparison but you get idea. The c43 leaves the gt350 hard 0-40, but the gt350 comes back around it HARD. I’ve personally seen this almost exact race in person (320awhp 2014 sti vs gt350 from a dig) and it was 3+ cars to the gt350 by ~1/4 mile. The c43 is about the closest awd magazine test car I could think of</p><p>########end.</p><p></p><p>Back to the NSX, 70-0 is 142ft... so braking is about as good as it gets. The gt500 didn’t win much there I bet. Maybe what, 70-0 in 139ft? .1s? I highly doubt any of the time is from braking seeing it’s about 300lbs heavier. Yes it has 16” brakes and 500lbs of downforce, but braking is much shorter than accelerating time wise. It takes much less time to stop from 100mph in most any car than it does to reach 100mph. It’s about 3/1 of the time spent is acceleration.</p><p></p><p>Soooooo.... the gt500 rolls out.</p><p></p><p>If that’s too much analysis, don’t bother telling me because I don’t care that you can’t understand it. I do, and I can say this thing will be almost 135 trap speed fast. 132-134 is my calculated guess based on what I can work with here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 16259932, member: 68944"] That’s all awd Cars. The gt500 is rwd with a known 3.5 0-60. Take into account the gt500 is literally 1.3 full seconds slower to 60 miles per hour than the Tesla. 10.8@125 with 2.275 0-60 as per motortrend. Yet, it closes the rest of that gap to .4 seconds behind in just the remaining 60-100-0. Against a 790hp 125mph car.... it CLOSED the gap. This to me verifies the gt500 traps well over high 120’s and into almost mid 130’s. How else do you close .6 seconds? Braking? Maybe it’s got .3 in braking on a p100d... maybe. That leaves .3 seconds 60-100mph on an all electric high torque 791hp rocket ship accelerating hard... Let’s go back to gas vs gas/(tiny electric) Compare it to the 573hp* (500hp... nice slip there) 3800lbs ‘17 nsx. [ATTACH=full]1590668[/ATTACH] This means the nsx is about .4 faster to 60mph. [ATTACH=full]1590669[/ATTACH] 11.3@125 means the gt500 is Waaaay higher than high 120’s. You don’t recoup 4/10th and then put .575 seconds on an 11.25 car in a 1/4 mile with 3mph on top. No way period. Anyone who’s been to a track day knows this. You need minimum 7 to honestly about 10mph to do that. You don’t catch 3 cars and put 3 cars with 3mph at the trap. To reiterate more clearly, this means the gt500 (assuming a 10.75 1/4) recoups that .4 loss to 60mph, and reaches the quarter mile some .575 seconds ahead of the nsx. I get 133-134mph needed to do that on paper. It’s about the same difference as a gt350 vs a c43amg-4matic. Example #######example: Gt350 ran 12.4@118 (source caranddriver identical time new and at 40k miles) [URL='https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a23083757/2017-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-reliability-update-3/']2017 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 – 40,000 Mile Evaluation[/URL] 2017 C43amg-4matic ran 0-60 in 4.1 and 12.7@110 1/4. Obviously not a perfect comparison but you get idea. The c43 leaves the gt350 hard 0-40, but the gt350 comes back around it HARD. I’ve personally seen this almost exact race in person (320awhp 2014 sti vs gt350 from a dig) and it was 3+ cars to the gt350 by ~1/4 mile. The c43 is about the closest awd magazine test car I could think of ########end. Back to the NSX, 70-0 is 142ft... so braking is about as good as it gets. The gt500 didn’t win much there I bet. Maybe what, 70-0 in 139ft? .1s? I highly doubt any of the time is from braking seeing it’s about 300lbs heavier. Yes it has 16” brakes and 500lbs of downforce, but braking is much shorter than accelerating time wise. It takes much less time to stop from 100mph in most any car than it does to reach 100mph. It’s about 3/1 of the time spent is acceleration. Soooooo.... the gt500 rolls out. If that’s too much analysis, don’t bother telling me because I don’t care that you can’t understand it. I do, and I can say this thing will be almost 135 trap speed fast. 132-134 is my calculated guess based on what I can work with here. [/QUOTE]
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