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Got my Snake Bite today. ( Not a joke thread)
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this guys knows what Im talking about!
Yeah I saw it too......I know a little bout it....
dynobobstieg
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I got up our Stage 5 vs competitor port up tonight:
STIEGEMEIER SNAKE BITE vs COMPETITOR - Supercharger Q&A, Moderated by Dyno Bob
Bob is still out in the shop working. I have not seen him for me to ask him any questions that I am not qualified to answer.
As always feel free to call for any questions or concerns.
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Robyn S
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Again, I apologize for not having test 2 posted yesterday.
STIEGEMEIER SNAKE BITE vs COMPETITOR - Supercharger Q&A, Moderated by Dyno Bob
Bob is still out in the shop working. I have not seen him for me to ask him any questions that I am not qualified to answer.
As always feel free to call for any questions or concerns.
Thank you
Robyn S
636-949-2275
StiegeSplash
Again, I apologize for not having test 2 posted yesterday.
I agree said the same thing a few pages back
I didnt bother to read all 17 pages.
I do know this from experience:
Ive been to different dynos and tuners from coast to coast. Any tuner or 'tooner' can make a huge horsepower # on the dyno with increased timing. The reason this is possible (without pinging) is because there is no load on the car. I dont care if the dyno is a "loaded" model, it still cannot duplicate 2 tons of car and wind resistance, period.
I stopped looking at horsepower #'s years ago and base any companies product, port, etc on MPH at the track. That is the only true measre of how a Hi-Po product stacks up.
I do know this from experience:
Ive been to different dynos and tuners from coast to coast. Any tuner or 'tooner' can make a huge horsepower # on the dyno with increased timing. The reason this is possible (without pinging) is because there is no load on the car. I dont care if the dyno is a "loaded" model, it still cannot duplicate 2 tons of car and wind resistance, period.
I stopped looking at horsepower #'s years ago and base any companies product, port, etc on MPH at the track. That is the only true measre of how a Hi-Po product stacks up.
The part I put in bold should be what the comparison test should be all about. The snakebite blower with the rotor/gearing speed changed is like comparing apples to oranges when having the same size pulley on a blower that dont have the gearing changed. Its common sense. Spin the blowers at the same rotor RPM, then coduct flow/hp tests.
If you would actually read the thread instead of just posting you'd see he has posted results of a stage 5 port versus the before mentioned race port.
Now...I'm not saying I agree with everything posting in his results. I also think anyone who decides on one port over the other based off of this thread is stupid as well. Numbers are just numbers, they don't mean a thing to me.
With that said, I'm running a stage V steggy port on my own car. Numbers mean nothing to me. Run what you want until you're happy with the results.
Stage 5, 2.76 upper, 2# lower. 490/490. If I cared about numbers I would have changed already.
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I did read the whole thread wise ass. Just so happened I missed that test vs the stage 5. Been following the thread since it started :burn:
dynobobstieg
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The only thing changed is the blower swap.
Track numbers and to be the fastest is the goal, unfortunately a lot of variables in that.
This is why we came up with the Snake Bitetm look at the power under the curve on the Dyno sheet.
Please go with the company or person you find most qualified to get the job done properly that your comfortable with, ultimately we want you to get/have the choice, whether you go with our company, elsewhere, or port it yourself.
Thank you
Stiegemeier :burnout:
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so glad i dont have a Heaton...
why? they make cheap decent power. my eaton along with others run faster than most whipple/KB cars
Getting an Eaton car to run hard and put down good times is impressive. It is like old time hot rodding. Getting the most out of what parts the car came with. Anyone can open the checkbook and plunk down the $$ for a Whipple or KB and make big power. Thats easy but not as impressive as a 10 sec Eaton car. Not to to me at least. Done the Whipple thing car was very fast but got bored with it quickly. With an Eaton car, every little tweek or trick you come up with yields more on the dyno and quicker times at the track. Now that keeps my interest!
agreed your car is a beast! :rockon:
but slap a Whipple or KB on your car and you'll run a lot faster then what you are in the Eaton.
I've never tried to discredit Stiegemeier and regularly congratulate people that run good times at the track on here. I only want to sell the best port I can do. It doesn't matter to me how a person achieves a certain boost amount at all. Plus I like the look of the pullies and auxiliary idler quite frankly.
I'll go ahead and say that I got a port on a Twin Turbo'd car that should easily be well over 1000hp. Just waiting to be tuned is all. Pretty sure it's getting dyno'd in the same shop as the person you are referring to also.:beer:
Seems to me at the low boost the Race Port has not come alive. Which I used to tell people actually that your blowers would make better torque. Then again they still respond great in the HP department so I stopped doing it. Actually referred a few customers straight over to you if they only wanted to run upper only. Not anymore though being as the last 4 cars I know of with 2.8 upper only's were all over 500 corrected HP. I am happy with the torque staying down just a little if that HP is up there on it seems to be a regular basis.
The only thing I got from the test on your site is leaning to what I just said. I port these things to be pushed and my IAT's on both tests are lower. Mine only went up or increased 19*'s on both tests. Then again yours went up 34*'s on the first one and 36*'s on the second test.
Mine started out warmer yet still stayed colder in both tests. I'll take that as a WIN. Yet I have no idea why that torque is that low. A Race Ported blower with an upper only will not lose torque at all. It won't pick up 30 or anything but it will increase some. It just needs to be spun a little more.
I am done in here also because I've posted to much already and don't want to look like a FOOL any longer. Unless I have to come back and save face but please let this test die.
I will add if anyone wants say an awesome deal that will make good numbers then I refer them straight over to True Forged for Steve's port. That is probably the best deal going and it has been for a couple of years also.:beer:
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dynobobstieg
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The Stiegemeier Stage 5 Engine temps were 10 degrees higher at start of run that is why they are 10 degrees higher at IAT2s.
Thanks to all of our supporters and to SVTPerformance!
We are currently working 7 days a week to stay on our 1-3 day turnaround time.
Thank you
Stiegemeier :burnout:
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We do have a very knowledgeable, well educated staff available to answer your questions however, if you are more comfortable speaking with me direct let the person answering the phone know that.
Robert D. Stiegemeier
Thanks to all of our supporters and to SVTPerformance!
We are currently working 7 days a week to stay on our 1-3 day turnaround time.
Thank you
Stiegemeier :burnout:
StiegeSplash
636-949-2275
636-925-1656
[email protected]
We do have a very knowledgeable, well educated staff available to answer your questions however, if you are more comfortable speaking with me direct let the person answering the phone know that.
Robert D. Stiegemeier
Regardless the chart clearly shows your IAT1's were colder than the Race Port at the start of the pull and then Hotter at the end of the pull than the Race Port.
Engine temps were by no means hot so that isn't a factor.
It's all there and rather easy to read.
19*'s increase for my Race Port compared to 34*/36*'s increase for your ports. I'll take the 19 any day of the week.
Thanks and I'm not going to argue with this.
Engine temps were by no means hot so that isn't a factor.
It's all there and rather easy to read.
19*'s increase for my Race Port compared to 34*/36*'s increase for your ports. I'll take the 19 any day of the week.
Thanks and I'm not going to argue with this.
What part of the blower porting attributes to the differences in the IAT2 temps?
The outlet is the part that will show the difference.
The bigger the outlet, theoretically should flow more air, cooler air.
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