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Ford Production -- Ouch!

Discussion in 'Road Side Pub' started by Weather Man, Apr 28, 2021.

  1. GNBRETT

    GNBRETT Premium Member Premium Member Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    Its not just chips. L&M engine says they pride themselves on building an engine within 3-6 weeks. Now they say they have engines sitting there since November waiting on parts!
     
  2. BrunotheBoxer

    BrunotheBoxer POWERLIFTING MASTER RACE Established Member

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    Right.
    Because we had a real president named Trump that wanted to put America first and bring manufacturing back home especially from chyna and now we got this illegitimate puppet of a president that wants to make Beijing great again.

    Nice try. Thanks for playing playah.
     
  3. IronSnake

    IronSnake Beers for the boys Established Member

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    Major supplier here. My company co-owns a few plants and companies in China (as much as you can, I guess).

    Not sure I'd call any of Trumps policies pro-American manufacturing. He protected the steel industry, but everyone else got the shaft. Nothing financially was extended to us to bring it all over here. All the tariffs did was make our goods 25% more costly. He didn't close the cost gap in moving our production here. Taxes, red tape, and unions would absolutely balloon our production costs.

    Bidens been no better. If he finalizes a corporate tax hike but doesn't touch tarrifs, a lot of companies you know and love in the Automotive world are going under. Spectra Premium is one which just went bankrupt. MOOG is on its last leg. Quite a few brands are hanging on by a thread.

    Pro-American Manufacturing policy didn't exist with Obama. It didn't exist with Trump. And it doesn't exist with Biden. They're just here to collect more tax revenue. They know it's too expensive to produce certain goods here.
     
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    BrunotheBoxer POWERLIFTING MASTER RACE Established Member

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    Didn’t read a word of it IronCuck.
    You’re a liberal democrat. Your opinion means shit to me.

    Keep on happily choking on that bullshit they are spoon feeding you.
     
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  5. IronSnake

    IronSnake Beers for the boys Established Member

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    I'll happily be a liberal democrat before I'm the POS that attacks other members children. Your ethics/code/conduct on here speak for themselves as to how we should all value your opinion.
     
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    Because "we" keep electing pos globalists and pos corporate leaders follow suit.
     
  7. BrunotheBoxer

    BrunotheBoxer POWERLIFTING MASTER RACE Established Member

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    I’d eat your soul.
     
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    MDShelby Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    A local car salesperson posted on FB yesterday that if you want to get a truck, get it now. What they have their lot (10% of their usual number) is all they foresee until fall. And most of what they have are the lesser optioned ones.
     
  9. Rb0891

    Rb0891 Premium Member Premium Member Established Member

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    Which will most likely be offset by Biden taxes on said chip manufacturers... How about trying to make the overall economic system more fair and competitive. Much better than a few handouts. Oh wait, we started to try that and people got hurt feelings...
     
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    VRYALT3R3D Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Automakers and suppliers have to compete on a global level. In many cases, it makes sense to have a plant located in a different country because they have better trade policies. Even if these plants were somehow coming back, it would be years before they would produce a single chip.
     
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    VRYALT3R3D Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Is this conjecture or do you actually have proof this will be happening?
     
  12. Rb0891

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    You may have a point, but you seem to think there would be an immediate change in four years? Can barely build a large scale plant in that amount of time, let alone see benefits. This took 40 years to screw up and will take a long time to fix. Changing the trajectory is what is most important, but that doesn't really make a headline.

    Worked at Moog during my college years over 20 years ago. They didn't really make too much themselves back then and I imagine it is even less now. I generally can't stand many democrats, but Obama certainly didn't start this. Hell, probably really goes back to Nixon.
     
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    Well given that I said "will most likely" and not "has been", I would say it is conjecture. It is 3rd grade comprehension here in the states. Or at least it used to be.
     
  14. IronSnake

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    I definitely do think there's some level of urgency for suppliers and manufacturers of all goods to make the change. Or at least, find a way to mitigate the artificial costs imposed by shitheads in Washington. So I feel like we'd at least have seen announcements/plans in Ts 4 years, or even within Biden's rehashing of the topic. Haven't really seen that though. Nothing mind blowing in terms of manufacturing moving back home.

    I'm all for it but there's a lot of costs incurred on American soil that aren't on the other side of the Ocean. Need to solve those first before we bring a widget that costs 5 bucks in China over here and cost turns into 25. That won't do anyone any favors.
     
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    You seem to think people in here think we can make some changes and fix this immediate chip problem. That isn't happening. May be a good time for companies to assess their supply chains though and be ready for plan "B" in the future. This won't be the last disruption. Doesn't mean all have to come back, as you say. Many manufacturers were caught with their pants down. They may learn from it, they may not.
     
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    imagine being so delusional that you think the president (or any politician) is in charge
     
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  17. mysticsvt

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    Like I mentioned in the other thread it finally hit us here at Bosch where we make injectors. I'm off today, tomorrow, friday and the weekend. Needed a little break! :)
     
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    Trump. In charge.
    biden. Diaper change needed.

    Imagine being so delusional that you think things are better now in America after 100 days of Beijing biden because Trump hurt your feewings.
     
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    You're an idiot..Trump and "America First" was just a banner..did he put American First last April? Nope he said Covid is a "hoax".over 500k Americans dead under his watch..did he build a wall using Mexican money ? Nope used illegal funds transferred from the Dept of Defense...Trump was a tax fraud, draft dodging lying piece of shit with the vocabulary of a third grader. So no..thank you for playing..when you aren't too busy wth Trumps orange nuts in your mouth. Btw... he lost 2 popular votes first by 3 Million and to Biden by almost 8..also lost control of the House and Senate under his watch all while finishing with lowest approval rating since they started tracking those numbers.....
     
  20. Sinister04L

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    Wow you hit almost every false CNN talking point. Good job! Your daddy Don Lemon must be proud.
     

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