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<blockquote data-quote="svtfocus2cobra" data-source="post: 15490481" data-attributes="member: 21786"><p>Well I guess I'm not talking for those newer shooters then, but I would say don't count out so many people because you would be surprised. And don't think the guys that I was training came in as weapons experts because many started off as basically beginners that I wasn't even sure should be handling a weapon. I have some friends though who have never served in the military but attended some schools or have just listened to experts and applied what they learned when they went to the range, and were driven to learn. And some of those guys could out shoot me all day long, but when it came to tactics they obviously could never get that training outside of the military, at least not for an affordable price.</p><p> </p><p>What I'm saying is that the tactics are more applicable in every day life than you think and when I went to the fleet I argued quite a bit with higher to allow us to apply these tactics more widely because it raises your understanding and situational awareness across the board. I was arguing to train Marines who had very very little experience in clearing tactics, and quite honestly, the tactics they had were bad to begin with. For you guys that have a good amount of knowledge on weapons and weapons handling you are perfect candidates to learn this type of stuff. The only problem is that it took us 2 months straight of shooting every day and clearing houses every day to gain that MOS.</p><p> </p><p>I have passed these tactics onto my friends by basically just telling them. And they aren't just strictly military tactics, they are more on the lines of SWAT tactics as that is the primary job. You are a hostage rescue and recapture of nuclear weapons and material team as your primary role.</p><p> </p><p>The most valuable thing to take out of all of it is the ability to train your sub-conscious. It's mind blowing when you finally get to that point where your sub-conscious acts for you under a stressful situation. You may be familiar with what I'm referring to if you have a background in this, but hopefully people who don't know will look into it and learn more about it because it is pretty much the secret to winning battles, big and small, and why our military is as good as it is. It comes with repetition and eventually will become second nature. Well trained MMA fighters or boxers will be familiar with this also as they directly correlate to each other. When your sub-conscious takes over you will make shots that your conscious mind will vaguely remember doing, and it will blow your mind. Regardless of your level of training or whether you are military or not anyone can attain this through practice, and what it will do will give you the upper hand over basically anyone who comes up against you, especially a home intruder or the person robbing the store you are shopping in.</p><p> </p><p>A prime example of this for me was when in a training scenario where we were using 9mm sim rounds while clearing an old middle school. My teammate and I were clearing the old music room which was a very large rectangular room. All the lights were out in the school so we had our tac-lights as the only lighting. We made entry into this rectangular room from the door in the very corner of the far end and I was using my M9 instead of my M4, probably because of a jam. I button-hooked right down the long wall and my 2 man went straight through the door down the back wall so we formed an L shape as we cleared the room. I remember looking forward in my sector of fire and there was just a piano on the other far end I was moving towards. The threat was behind it and all I could see was this piano and that corner of the room, I could not see the side of the room opposite as it was all dark. As I suppressed the threat behind the piano and he was firing back I started seeing rounds pass through my tac-light. This is where my sub-conscious kicked in. I impulsively turned left for just a split second and fired off a pair in the direction of the rounds coming across to suppress it. It was in my partners sector of fire but knowing the tactics I know he had stopped along the back so I knew he was not over there to where I could potentially go blue on blue with him. I took the two shots and went back to my sector, finishing off the threat behind the piano. From my recollection I saw nothing when I took those shots to the left out of my sector. But when we did our dead-checks after the room was clear, my two man called me over to where the commander of our school was sitting against the wall playing dead with a perfect pair of shots dead center in his chest. He moaned a little bit because he didn't have body armor on and those 9mm hurt like a bitch so he was a little pissed and yelled at me because he said he was an occupant and unarmed, but when we searched him he had an M9 on him. I used the cover of darkness to get out of there without him seeing who I was but I knew he had taken the shots and what I did was basically perfect, but it was all my sub-conscious doing the real work.</p><p> </p><p>All of that may seem unusable or unattainable in real life scenarios but in reality that is exactly what is going to happen in some capacity. Your sub-conscious controls your fight or flight responses so with enough training, mentally and physically, it will suppress your flight response and begin to control your fight response in reaction to your training. The real training needs to start in your mind where you have to wrap your head around certain scenarios you may run into and then begin to train repeatedly to those scenarios.</p><p> </p><p>Sorry for the long post but honestly this is the most valuable information anyone that is even just getting started firearms and home defense can pick up on. And from what I have seen you won't learn this stuff in most schools as it is not something they can fit into their schedules. If I ever start a school this will be a primary cornerstone of the training.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="svtfocus2cobra, post: 15490481, member: 21786"] Well I guess I'm not talking for those newer shooters then, but I would say don't count out so many people because you would be surprised. And don't think the guys that I was training came in as weapons experts because many started off as basically beginners that I wasn't even sure should be handling a weapon. I have some friends though who have never served in the military but attended some schools or have just listened to experts and applied what they learned when they went to the range, and were driven to learn. And some of those guys could out shoot me all day long, but when it came to tactics they obviously could never get that training outside of the military, at least not for an affordable price. What I'm saying is that the tactics are more applicable in every day life than you think and when I went to the fleet I argued quite a bit with higher to allow us to apply these tactics more widely because it raises your understanding and situational awareness across the board. I was arguing to train Marines who had very very little experience in clearing tactics, and quite honestly, the tactics they had were bad to begin with. For you guys that have a good amount of knowledge on weapons and weapons handling you are perfect candidates to learn this type of stuff. The only problem is that it took us 2 months straight of shooting every day and clearing houses every day to gain that MOS. I have passed these tactics onto my friends by basically just telling them. And they aren't just strictly military tactics, they are more on the lines of SWAT tactics as that is the primary job. You are a hostage rescue and recapture of nuclear weapons and material team as your primary role. The most valuable thing to take out of all of it is the ability to train your sub-conscious. It's mind blowing when you finally get to that point where your sub-conscious acts for you under a stressful situation. You may be familiar with what I'm referring to if you have a background in this, but hopefully people who don't know will look into it and learn more about it because it is pretty much the secret to winning battles, big and small, and why our military is as good as it is. It comes with repetition and eventually will become second nature. Well trained MMA fighters or boxers will be familiar with this also as they directly correlate to each other. When your sub-conscious takes over you will make shots that your conscious mind will vaguely remember doing, and it will blow your mind. Regardless of your level of training or whether you are military or not anyone can attain this through practice, and what it will do will give you the upper hand over basically anyone who comes up against you, especially a home intruder or the person robbing the store you are shopping in. A prime example of this for me was when in a training scenario where we were using 9mm sim rounds while clearing an old middle school. My teammate and I were clearing the old music room which was a very large rectangular room. All the lights were out in the school so we had our tac-lights as the only lighting. We made entry into this rectangular room from the door in the very corner of the far end and I was using my M9 instead of my M4, probably because of a jam. I button-hooked right down the long wall and my 2 man went straight through the door down the back wall so we formed an L shape as we cleared the room. I remember looking forward in my sector of fire and there was just a piano on the other far end I was moving towards. The threat was behind it and all I could see was this piano and that corner of the room, I could not see the side of the room opposite as it was all dark. As I suppressed the threat behind the piano and he was firing back I started seeing rounds pass through my tac-light. This is where my sub-conscious kicked in. I impulsively turned left for just a split second and fired off a pair in the direction of the rounds coming across to suppress it. It was in my partners sector of fire but knowing the tactics I know he had stopped along the back so I knew he was not over there to where I could potentially go blue on blue with him. I took the two shots and went back to my sector, finishing off the threat behind the piano. From my recollection I saw nothing when I took those shots to the left out of my sector. But when we did our dead-checks after the room was clear, my two man called me over to where the commander of our school was sitting against the wall playing dead with a perfect pair of shots dead center in his chest. He moaned a little bit because he didn't have body armor on and those 9mm hurt like a bitch so he was a little pissed and yelled at me because he said he was an occupant and unarmed, but when we searched him he had an M9 on him. I used the cover of darkness to get out of there without him seeing who I was but I knew he had taken the shots and what I did was basically perfect, but it was all my sub-conscious doing the real work. All of that may seem unusable or unattainable in real life scenarios but in reality that is exactly what is going to happen in some capacity. Your sub-conscious controls your fight or flight responses so with enough training, mentally and physically, it will suppress your flight response and begin to control your fight response in reaction to your training. The real training needs to start in your mind where you have to wrap your head around certain scenarios you may run into and then begin to train repeatedly to those scenarios. Sorry for the long post but honestly this is the most valuable information anyone that is even just getting started firearms and home defense can pick up on. And from what I have seen you won't learn this stuff in most schools as it is not something they can fit into their schedules. If I ever start a school this will be a primary cornerstone of the training. [/QUOTE]
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