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E85 Conversion

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  1. andrewrj

    andrewrj Member Established Member

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    Anyone know of a GT500 that has been converted? I know a lot of guys with 03/04 cobras convert and I saw a couple gt500s in the e85 shootout but I cannot find any information about swapping over or anyone mention anything about tuning an e85 gt500. I really want to run on this stuff and I am pretty sure I mostly just need a beefier fuel system/injectors but if anyone has any more information, it would be appreciated. E85 has so much potential.
     
  2. sfadchi

    sfadchi Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Tony (thebull) is running a twin turbo car right now on E85. I'm also working on a E85 project right now.
     
  3. XtremeS10

    XtremeS10 Member Established Member

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    I will be going to E85 when I build the long block next year
     
  4. thebull

    thebull 150 or Bust Established Member

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    PM me I'll tell you everything you need to know!
     
  5. blueovalkid

    blueovalkid The Snake Pit Established Member

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    Im interested in converting to E85 too!
     
  6. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    to do the E85 swap do us GT500 have to worry about any rubber lines an other parts wearing out from running that fuel?

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    with my mods in my sig and adding 80lb FRPP injectors, KB BAP, an CJ MAF get me an easy 700HP on E85 without having to worry about it on the lean side?

    thanks guys
     
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    Ironhand Banned

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    You sir have a PM. :beer:
     
  8. nolyaw

    nolyaw Been there owned that Established Member

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    I am interested as well, but in a not-so-modified form.

    Basically I would just want a tune/pulley/ported blower/throttle body car with an E85 tune for the road course.

    On my '03 I had about an 80 whp difference with my E85 tune, plus the huge advantages of combustion cooling.

    I am just wondering at around the 600 whp level, if I would need to upgrade the fuel system to run it, or if there would be enough fuel left in it, since the car would be so lightly modified. I guess I could do injectors, and hopefully keep the stock pumps and lines.

    I need more info on these cars and E85!!
     
  9. blacknlte

    blacknlte New Member Established Member

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    Best thing to do is PM Tony (thebull)
     
  10. Bad500Chris

    Bad500Chris Ace Established Member

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    I'm looking to make the swap as well.
    Currently I'm looking to go with 80lb injectors and a BAP just in case.

    Current power mods are a 2.59 upper and a FRPP intake (can-tune making 548/556)
    I believe it's possible to hit 600/600 with a lower/CJ Throttle body and e85.

    Because I live in California and we rarely see lower than 50 degrees in air temp, would I need to change the mixture at all? or could I run 100% e85?

    PM sent to tony
     
  11. 70SCJ

    70SCJ (Ret) USMC F/A-18 Driver Established Member

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    80's might get maxed out with your setup. The BAP will be a must.
    I asked a couple of questions on a E85 sight about how fuel required and if I could get to the 750 rwhp level with my current setup. Here are the comments and a ball park minumum fueling requirement that I received.

    "If you want to look at ballpark:

    Figure 18% driveline loss:
    -750 x 1.18 = 885 bhp
    -Figure about .75-.80 lb/hp-hr BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption) - say -.775 average
    -885hp x .775 lb/hp-hr = 686 lb/hr fuel flow
    -Figure 6.5 lb/gallon E85
    -686lb/hr / 6.5 lb/gal = 105 gph fuel flow

    Or convert to liters:
    -105 gal x 3.785 liters/gal = ~400lph

    This would be pretty much a bare minimum at what ever fuel pressure you run. Figure any type of voltage drop, pressure rise due to boost, extra fuel so you don't run out and go lean, etc and you'd want some 'safety margin' above that number. Probably looking at something like an aeromotive 1000, bosch 044, etc."
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    This says that I need 90's or better as a minimum.
     
  12. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    Well I was also thinking about getting my pumps changed out from the dual 255 to dual 310s by pauls hp. Already have the bap 80 lbs an cj maf on order
     
  13. 70SCJ

    70SCJ (Ret) USMC F/A-18 Driver Established Member

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    That's the approach I think I'm gonna take as well. Dual 310's with a BAP and bigger injectors should push quite a bit of fuel.
    Are you just going to take your stock pumps out and send them off to Paul's?
    I was kind of wondering how that process worked?
     
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    Which pumps are we talking about when you say 310s? 044s? GSS342s? Im thinking of just using a Fore Hat with 3 GSS342s. I already have the rails. Also 105s are availible but I have yet to see anyone one them.
     
  15. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    Pauls hp send to send the whole pump set to them an they'll modify it.
     
  16. stkjock

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    I think your estimate is a bit high, seems more like 13% on the TR6060 from the stock dyno numbers I've seen.
     
  17. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    I'm not sure who actually makes the 310L pumps that Pauls hp installs.
     
  18. AzDropTop

    AzDropTop Active Member Established Member

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    Why would you all want to do this? It is less efficient than regular gas, costs about the same and has been know to cause problems...so why?
     
  19. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    You have a lot to learn. Read up on it. Makes more power an burns cleaner than a hybrid.
     
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    Would Pauls HP give out that information?
     

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