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<blockquote data-quote="TheCPE" data-source="post: 13056879" data-attributes="member: 124065"><p>Well just going off of the "4th grade science quiz", the earth is billions of years old, dinosaurs did live millions of years ago and not at the same time as humans. We have scientific evidence that refutes this all too the point that as covered in previous posts in this thread, even believers typically don't refute the scientific truths vs the biblical claims. There are some creationist but they are not the majority of believers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How many scientific theories based upon empiricism are you aware of that weren't just refined but that were entirely overturned? The way science works is perfectly fine with new discoveries, obviously as we learn more our theories will become more resolute. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who said there is no purpose to someone's life? If you require a god to exist for you to see purpose in your life than I feel sorry for you. I derive purpose in life not based upon some authority commanding me but on my own ambitions and my own desires. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What is an abuse of the natural intellectual authority adults have over children is teaching blatantly erroneous ideas based upon dogma. That is called indoctrination and is very sad. Further, regarding the idea that this is teaching children that some being created them with purpose and loves them doesn't hold up... What is being taught is that they should obey perceived authority without question and that morality is not based upon reason but upon doing what you are told because god says so. That is precisely the way psychopathic people abuse and control other people.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This isn't accurate. Atheism first of all has nothing to do with morality. Atheism shouldn't even be a term that exists in the first place. There isn't a term for people that don't believe in unicorns. All an atheist is is a NON-theist. </p><p></p><p>Further, there is no reason that an objective morale code cannot exist without the existence of a god. Ideas regarding objective morality predates the Abrahamic religions. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Regarding your quote of Sam Harris and rape, I'm not sure if you misunderstood it or what point you are making after all he clearly states that we REPUDIATE the act morally whether it is argued as natural or not. This follows completely with the idea of an objective moral code of doing no harm to others you wouldn't want done to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCPE, post: 13056879, member: 124065"] Well just going off of the "4th grade science quiz", the earth is billions of years old, dinosaurs did live millions of years ago and not at the same time as humans. We have scientific evidence that refutes this all too the point that as covered in previous posts in this thread, even believers typically don't refute the scientific truths vs the biblical claims. There are some creationist but they are not the majority of believers. How many scientific theories based upon empiricism are you aware of that weren't just refined but that were entirely overturned? The way science works is perfectly fine with new discoveries, obviously as we learn more our theories will become more resolute. Who said there is no purpose to someone's life? If you require a god to exist for you to see purpose in your life than I feel sorry for you. I derive purpose in life not based upon some authority commanding me but on my own ambitions and my own desires. What is an abuse of the natural intellectual authority adults have over children is teaching blatantly erroneous ideas based upon dogma. That is called indoctrination and is very sad. Further, regarding the idea that this is teaching children that some being created them with purpose and loves them doesn't hold up... What is being taught is that they should obey perceived authority without question and that morality is not based upon reason but upon doing what you are told because god says so. That is precisely the way psychopathic people abuse and control other people. This isn't accurate. Atheism first of all has nothing to do with morality. Atheism shouldn't even be a term that exists in the first place. There isn't a term for people that don't believe in unicorns. All an atheist is is a NON-theist. Further, there is no reason that an objective morale code cannot exist without the existence of a god. Ideas regarding objective morality predates the Abrahamic religions. Regarding your quote of Sam Harris and rape, I'm not sure if you misunderstood it or what point you are making after all he clearly states that we REPUDIATE the act morally whether it is argued as natural or not. This follows completely with the idea of an objective moral code of doing no harm to others you wouldn't want done to you. [/QUOTE]
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