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Local dealer near me is showing MSRP's on their website with the savings amount and final price below them. 'Savings' are anywhere from 4k to 7k.
NONE of the MSRP's are whats listed on the window sticker. They are all 2-3k higher.
What kind of BS is that?
 

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My parents who are older and very old school went to buy a Toyota yesterday. While I warned them of the dealership shenanigans now days, they came home empty handed and very very very aggravated with their experience.
 

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Local dealer near me is showing MSRP's on their website with the savings amount and final price below them. 'Savings' are anywhere from 4k to 7k.
NONE of the MSRP's are whats listed on the window sticker. They are all 2-3k higher.
What kind of BS is that?

The steaming pile kind.
 

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My parents who are older and very old school went to buy a Toyota yesterday. While I warned them of the dealership shenanigans now days, they came home empty handed and very very very aggravated with their experience.
Not a surprise these days.

The Toyota dealership I mentioned a while back is still marking up vehicles 10k. My wife wants a Highlander but we aren't paying 10k over MSRP. When the time comes to pull the trigger we may head out of state.
 

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Local dealer near me is showing MSRP's on their website with the savings amount and final price below them. 'Savings' are anywhere from 4k to 7k.
NONE of the MSRP's are whats listed on the window sticker. They are all 2-3k higher.
What kind of BS is that?

They're listing the top MSRP, before any manufacturers discounts.
 

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Ford Is Paying Bronco Order Holders $2,500 to Buy Something Else​

Story by Rob Stumpf • 2h ago

It seems like everybody and their mother wants a Ford Bronco nowadays. The Blue Oval's off-roader has been a hit since its revival, resulting in a year's wait or more for some loyal—and extremely patient—customers. Supply is still struggling to meet demand, and Ford is now willing to pay buyers $2,500 to cancel their Bronco order for something else.
 

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It seems like everybody and their mother wants a Ford Bronco nowadays.
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Ford Is Paying Bronco Order Holders $2,500 to Buy Something Else​

Story by Rob Stumpf • 2h ago

It seems like everybody and their mother wants a Ford Bronco nowadays. The Blue Oval's off-roader has been a hit since its revival, resulting in a year's wait or more for some loyal—and extremely patient—customers. Supply is still struggling to meet demand, and Ford is now willing to pay buyers $2,500 to cancel their Bronco order for something else.
I don’t get this. There is a medium sized used car guy in town that has at least 12 on the lot. Been sitting there for a few months.
 

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I did (being a bronco nut with 70, 74, 78, and 79 Broncos), but I'd have to kill warrantee with tune on 2.7 (unless they finally have factory tune now), since it is a slug out of the hole stock and I'd bust up that steering rack/tie rods in my first wheeling trip (which means I'd have to immediately mod Ford's top offroad offering, just to run 35's locked).

The worst part is quality. The latest I saw was hardtops cracking, not even removing top or going offroad.

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Heard an ad for local area suburban ford dealer.. along the lines of “the most used cars in the state” “over 2000 used cars ready for sale” something along those lines.

They gotta be upside down bigly on that kind of inventory I would think.

Reminds me of all the public bankruptcy auctions they used to have at the silverdome parking lot circa 08/09
 

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Heard an ad for local area suburban ford dealer.. along the lines of “the most used cars in the state” “over 2000 used cars ready for sale” something along those lines.

They gotta be upside down bigly on that kind of inventory I would think.

Reminds me of all the public bankruptcy auctions they used to have at the silverdome parking lot circa 08/09

The mega-dealers are all resuming precovid advertising levels as inventory levels approach precovid.

The good news is that the deals are out there again for those willing to look and bargain.
 

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I did (being a bronco nut with 70, 74, 78, and 79 Broncos), but I'd have to kill warrantee with tune on 2.7.
BINGO!!!!!
Not too worried about the warranty as once it's over in 3 years or 36k miles, it's over.
But, yeah,...........a 2.7 in a truck like that?!?! LOL Hard pass.
 

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They're listing the top MSRP, before any manufacturers discounts.
What do you mean by “top msrp”? I’m thinking msrp = window sticker.

I’ve seen what he is talking about, for example, vehicle listed online is listed as “MSRP - $40,000, dealer discounts - $3,000, sale price $37,000.”

When you go look at the provided window sticker the MSRP is actually $37,500. So where did the listed msrp come from?
 

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What do you mean by “top msrp”? I’m thinking msrp = window sticker.

I’ve seen what he is talking about, for example, vehicle listed online is listed as “MSRP - $40,000, dealer discounts - $3,000, sale price $37,000.”

When you go look at the provided window sticker the MSRP is actually $37,500. So where did the listed msrp come from?
If you look at the Window sticker, they have MSRP and then Factory Rebates and then the price of the vehicle. Stupid word games.
 

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How about “internet price” that is 15k over sticker? Are dealers still price gouging?

Some still are yes. I’ve been a member of a Facebook group for car dealers because I’m in service and thought it would be a good mix with some funny memes but it turns out it’s mostly sales guys.

For the last 2 years they have been bragging about how much they’ve been making on car sales because they are selling so far over msrp. Now they are posting about customers coming to trade back in and they can’t make a deal because the car they sold them 2 years ago is 10 grand upside down. I’m dying laughing at them, hope they put some of that money away because they screwed themselves for what’s coming.
 

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What do you mean by “top msrp”? I’m thinking msrp = window sticker.

I’ve seen what he is talking about, for example, vehicle listed online is listed as “MSRP - $40,000, dealer discounts - $3,000, sale price $37,000.”

When you go look at the provided window sticker the MSRP is actually $37,500. So where did the listed msrp come from?

I don't have a photo to show it. But like an F150 for example. MSRP $67,500. $2,500 discount for XLT Sport Package. The MSRP highlighted on the sticker will be $65,000. The $67,500 is the top MSRP.
 

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I don't have a photo to show it. But like an F150 for example. MSRP $67,500. $2,500 discount for XLT Sport Package. The MSRP highlighted on the sticker will be $65,000. The $67,500 is the top MSRP.
Ah ok I have seen that. Thanks for the clarification.

I think the situations I’ve been seeing more of is stuff like this:
 

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