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Coyote timing, cam timing, tuning ect..
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<blockquote data-quote="Foxkid87" data-source="post: 15584225" data-attributes="member: 133594"><p>Ok so here it goes.. I took my car out to the track a few times and while I'm happy and it exceeded my expectations on the first outing, I was also a little discouraged on the 2nd outing. I'm looking for some help and guidance on the tune. my setup is in a foxbody and tuning is done with MS3PRO ecu with cams enabled (although cam tables were left zeroed out the first 2 outings). I had a member on the ms extra forums who also has a yote running on ms3 hook me up with a timing table and near stock cam tables.</p><p></p><p>So when I first got the timing map, I took a few degs out of the entire map to be safe as this is the first car I've ever tuned. While the car runs and pulls strong it seems to struggle down in the midrange around my launch rpm (4k give or take a few hundo). My best 60ft so far has been a 1.61 and best 1/8th mile time has been 7.09 at 99.94 mph. I know that 4k needs to go up some as the converter is probably tight but this was also foot braking and not using the trans brake yet..</p><p></p><p>Id like to see what kind of timing these things run at in the mid range and at wot. For the 8-10 passes ive made so far, its been at 25 deg of ign timing, give or take .5 or so. I'm also running on vp 110 fuel right now. I'm seeing some say that 28-29 deg on e85 is normal and some say they run that on 93 oct. I have no idea how vp110 stacks up to say e85 as far as ign timing is concered. so a little help with a near stock timing map would help greatly. If it matters this is a stock 13 motor (gt motor) with a cj intake and monoblade tb. IF someone could compare the timing in the pic ive posted below (even a stock table) just so I can compare and have a baseline..</p><p></p><p>I'm also having some issues trying to find anything on cam tables and what stock values would be or what works best on say a cj intake setup. Part of the problem here is that I'm using ms3pro so valves are entered a little different that you would see in say hptuners. basically the way its setup is 0 on the table is no advance and 40 is 40 deg advance for intake or 40 deg retard for exhaust. right now I have his tables loaded up but have no idea where to start with this.. if someone could help me out with some tables that would put me in the ball park that would be awesome. ill attach some pics so you guys can see what I'm talking about.</p><p></p><p>7.14 at 98 mph pass from the 2nd outing at 1.61 60ft</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]qo5WwT8eTy8[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>playing with the cams.. ghost cam idle thing stuff ish.. lol</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]8XfMeXoXVNM[/MEDIA]</p><p><img src="https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17757080_10158460755625174_439806753128707494_n.jpg?oh=c47bcd5e5fd9530dec96fb9da7343493&oe=59844322" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p><img src="https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17990237_10158564404015174_5380131678271801609_o.jpg?oh=a7366b3d2c550765b196e14be4c0f9d5&oe=598B9E91" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok so heres the run down on this pass..</p><p>footbrake leaving at 4000.. no cams tables set up and 25 deg of timing at wot.</p><p>I let off at the 1/8th if anyone was curious</p><p><img src="https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17492625_10158465596710174_467710642471174127_o.jpg?oh=b218b5f0af23fb92e087fa80ef39d7e0&oe=59870C38" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Foxkid87, post: 15584225, member: 133594"] Ok so here it goes.. I took my car out to the track a few times and while I'm happy and it exceeded my expectations on the first outing, I was also a little discouraged on the 2nd outing. I'm looking for some help and guidance on the tune. my setup is in a foxbody and tuning is done with MS3PRO ecu with cams enabled (although cam tables were left zeroed out the first 2 outings). I had a member on the ms extra forums who also has a yote running on ms3 hook me up with a timing table and near stock cam tables. So when I first got the timing map, I took a few degs out of the entire map to be safe as this is the first car I've ever tuned. While the car runs and pulls strong it seems to struggle down in the midrange around my launch rpm (4k give or take a few hundo). My best 60ft so far has been a 1.61 and best 1/8th mile time has been 7.09 at 99.94 mph. I know that 4k needs to go up some as the converter is probably tight but this was also foot braking and not using the trans brake yet.. Id like to see what kind of timing these things run at in the mid range and at wot. For the 8-10 passes ive made so far, its been at 25 deg of ign timing, give or take .5 or so. I'm also running on vp 110 fuel right now. I'm seeing some say that 28-29 deg on e85 is normal and some say they run that on 93 oct. I have no idea how vp110 stacks up to say e85 as far as ign timing is concered. so a little help with a near stock timing map would help greatly. If it matters this is a stock 13 motor (gt motor) with a cj intake and monoblade tb. IF someone could compare the timing in the pic ive posted below (even a stock table) just so I can compare and have a baseline.. I'm also having some issues trying to find anything on cam tables and what stock values would be or what works best on say a cj intake setup. Part of the problem here is that I'm using ms3pro so valves are entered a little different that you would see in say hptuners. basically the way its setup is 0 on the table is no advance and 40 is 40 deg advance for intake or 40 deg retard for exhaust. right now I have his tables loaded up but have no idea where to start with this.. if someone could help me out with some tables that would put me in the ball park that would be awesome. ill attach some pics so you guys can see what I'm talking about. 7.14 at 98 mph pass from the 2nd outing at 1.61 60ft [MEDIA=youtube]qo5WwT8eTy8[/MEDIA] playing with the cams.. ghost cam idle thing stuff ish.. lol [MEDIA=youtube]8XfMeXoXVNM[/MEDIA] [IMG]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17757080_10158460755625174_439806753128707494_n.jpg?oh=c47bcd5e5fd9530dec96fb9da7343493&oe=59844322[/IMG] [IMG]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17990237_10158564404015174_5380131678271801609_o.jpg?oh=a7366b3d2c550765b196e14be4c0f9d5&oe=598B9E91[/IMG] Ok so heres the run down on this pass.. footbrake leaving at 4000.. no cams tables set up and 25 deg of timing at wot. I let off at the 1/8th if anyone was curious [IMG]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17492625_10158465596710174_467710642471174127_o.jpg?oh=b218b5f0af23fb92e087fa80ef39d7e0&oe=59870C38[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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