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<blockquote data-quote="jmsa540" data-source="post: 16399498" data-attributes="member: 98129"><p>[USER=10422]@ON D BIT[/USER]</p><p></p><p>Hey, this whole multiquote thing isn't working for me, but wanted you to know I replied to your response, man.</p><p></p><p>-BREAK-</p><p></p><p>Let's say they do make 5K on a vehicle sale after it's been sold for invoice; your example. At the end of the day, it should be up to the consumer to do his due diligence and save as much money as he can whether any dealer makes 5k, 7k, 12k, etc. Everyone is in the consumers back pocket. However, we all know that there are a lot of misinformed individuals out there and they get got the first time or any other time they buy a vehicle.</p><p></p><p>-BREAK-</p><p></p><p>The 30k and 35k figures were hypothetical numbers, man. They were also "otd" prices, hypothetically, too. So no need to add in taxes, fees, etc. What my intent on that message was, say a vehicle is sold to a private party for 35k otd (from a dealer), immediately that vehicle value just went to 30k for ppv. To me, that is mind numbing. Again, not exact numbers, just a hypothetical number that I threw out there to talk about vehicle depreciation. I can see how that was misunderstood. The 30k number, as I was viewing it was more a asset number, "how much money do I have in assets?" or "what's my total estate value?" Hope that makes sense. I tried to focus that talking point on based on vehicle depreciation and estate asset.) I understand the risk vs. reward in car buying and you have to pay to play. At the end of the day, you (the consumer) will always lose money buying. How much money the consumer loses is up to him to mitigate.</p><p></p><p>-BREAK-</p><p></p><p>Again, I was referencing to private party value once driven off the lot. There was a disconnect in that reply during that piece of the conversation. And you're right, I'm sure the dealer wouldn't sell to someone when they can get their car sold to someone else at a higher purchasing price. That wouldn't be a smart business move for that dealership.</p><p></p><p>-BREAK-</p><p></p><p>Isn't purchasing a car for the "least amount of money" and the "best price" the same thing?</p><p></p><p>Okay, again, that question was merely just a conversation piece. Kinda like a hey, talking to my "neighbor over the fence" type of conversation. (Asking about st price). I never said I didn't like the price, I actually responded as Joe would in impractical jokers; in other words it's a phenomenal price. However, again, I'm currently not in the market for buying another brand new vehicle.</p><p></p><p>Don't see your point on me trying to screw over any dealer? If anything the dealer (not all) are screwing the consumer over. Are you aware that some states have laws on fees but yet these dealers in these states still don't follow these laws? I would consider that bad business practice, unethical, immoral, and illegal. Let's talk about warranties. Are scratch and dent warranties really necessary? No, not at all. Why is the same, nationwide, oem warranty $4.2k in one state but $1.6k in another state? What about mandatory accessory fees being added on which aren't part of the MSRP being displayed on the vehicle? Also, illegal. However, the dealer does have every right to sell any and all types of warranties they want in the "backroom".</p><p></p><p>How is this not speaking in terms of dollars? The so called "5%" holdback does equate to a percentage of the monetary value of what's being spent on the car.</p><p></p><p>And you're right about the "I have 35k, can I get it with these options statement." That's what I've been trying to get at it just in a different viewpoint.</p><p></p><p>-BREAK-</p><p></p><p>Again, at the end of the day, it's up to the consumer to do his due diligence and proper research.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmsa540, post: 16399498, member: 98129"] [USER=10422]@ON D BIT[/USER] Hey, this whole multiquote thing isn't working for me, but wanted you to know I replied to your response, man. -BREAK- Let's say they do make 5K on a vehicle sale after it's been sold for invoice; your example. At the end of the day, it should be up to the consumer to do his due diligence and save as much money as he can whether any dealer makes 5k, 7k, 12k, etc. Everyone is in the consumers back pocket. However, we all know that there are a lot of misinformed individuals out there and they get got the first time or any other time they buy a vehicle. -BREAK- The 30k and 35k figures were hypothetical numbers, man. They were also "otd" prices, hypothetically, too. So no need to add in taxes, fees, etc. What my intent on that message was, say a vehicle is sold to a private party for 35k otd (from a dealer), immediately that vehicle value just went to 30k for ppv. To me, that is mind numbing. Again, not exact numbers, just a hypothetical number that I threw out there to talk about vehicle depreciation. I can see how that was misunderstood. The 30k number, as I was viewing it was more a asset number, "how much money do I have in assets?" or "what's my total estate value?" Hope that makes sense. I tried to focus that talking point on based on vehicle depreciation and estate asset.) I understand the risk vs. reward in car buying and you have to pay to play. At the end of the day, you (the consumer) will always lose money buying. How much money the consumer loses is up to him to mitigate. -BREAK- Again, I was referencing to private party value once driven off the lot. There was a disconnect in that reply during that piece of the conversation. And you're right, I'm sure the dealer wouldn't sell to someone when they can get their car sold to someone else at a higher purchasing price. That wouldn't be a smart business move for that dealership. -BREAK- Isn't purchasing a car for the "least amount of money" and the "best price" the same thing? Okay, again, that question was merely just a conversation piece. Kinda like a hey, talking to my "neighbor over the fence" type of conversation. (Asking about st price). I never said I didn't like the price, I actually responded as Joe would in impractical jokers; in other words it's a phenomenal price. However, again, I'm currently not in the market for buying another brand new vehicle. Don't see your point on me trying to screw over any dealer? If anything the dealer (not all) are screwing the consumer over. Are you aware that some states have laws on fees but yet these dealers in these states still don't follow these laws? I would consider that bad business practice, unethical, immoral, and illegal. Let's talk about warranties. Are scratch and dent warranties really necessary? No, not at all. Why is the same, nationwide, oem warranty $4.2k in one state but $1.6k in another state? What about mandatory accessory fees being added on which aren't part of the MSRP being displayed on the vehicle? Also, illegal. However, the dealer does have every right to sell any and all types of warranties they want in the "backroom". How is this not speaking in terms of dollars? The so called "5%" holdback does equate to a percentage of the monetary value of what's being spent on the car. And you're right about the "I have 35k, can I get it with these options statement." That's what I've been trying to get at it just in a different viewpoint. -BREAK- Again, at the end of the day, it's up to the consumer to do his due diligence and proper research. [/QUOTE]
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