@[email protected] Nice car, Ive been to that dealer a few times, my biggest pet peeves of all is when dealers install front lic. plate and drill the front bumper, I have no clue why some dealers choose to do this, i have even seen this done on a gt500! OMG that is a easy way to loose customers, i will not touch a car where the front bumper has been drilled. @13COBRA Nick, why do some dealer do this? mayby I'm just being picky and most customers don't mind?
Depends on the vehicle.
I sold my 2013 Raptor to carvana a few months back with 96,000 miles on it and they gave me $32,400
to put it in perspective, a year earlier when it only had 75,000 miles the going rate for trade/ personal sale was right about $27-28,000
needless to say I jumped at their offer. Even if I factor in what I lost in sales tax credit, I still figured I came out ahead by $3000
If Cali requires front plates then technically yes. they are suppose to. But those kind of dealers know their customers dont want that so they may not.
We've done the whole backordered thing a time or two..Another way around this is to make sure the car is originally sold and registered in a one plate state. Then you can play the fudge game by going to your local brand dealer getting a bogus sale receipt that says it is on back order I knew of a local Huracan owner that did this for 6 + years by having it then in 4-6 months making another. He had a cop thinking he had something until he produced that and basically told him how the court would rip him a new one for wasting their time LOL. I did this same exact thing for my SS when I got it in 2019 but thankfully Ohio has chucked the front plate and so only has rear plates.
My state requires it. I just don’t run one lol. The “thin blue line” sticker seems to go along way around here.Another way around this is to make sure the car is originally sold and registered in a one plate state. Then you can play the fudge game by going to your local brand dealer getting a bogus sale receipt that says it is on back order I knew of a local Huracan owner that did this for 6 + years by having it then in 4-6 months making another. He had a cop thinking he had something until he produced that and basically told him how the court would rip him a new one for wasting their time LOL. I did this same exact thing for my SS when I got it in 2019 but thankfully Ohio has chucked the front plate and so only has rear plates.
The only thing I can figure is that the powers that are in control at Ford are embarrassed about selling muscle cars.
Oh let's not open that can of worms again
When I bought my Jeep Gladiator this past fall, I had a bad experience with my local dealer and ended up buying from a dealer an hour away that was pretty painless and laid back.
The local guy didn't really want to negotiate or give me solid numbers. He gave me a broad range on trade and said that I wouldn't find a better price on the new Jeep since they were already just above invoice (and he showed me a random number from some 5 inch binder with hundreds of pages in it of all their vehicles). He justified the low range on my trade (2016 STi) by telling me that it would be hard to resell because "those tuner cars are usually beat to death, not saying yours has been, and no one will want it." I tried asking how much better they could do on either the trade or new car and he said "I'll go to bat for you if you're going to buy today, but we aren't in the business of practicing filling out paperwork and running numbers if you aren't going to buy today." At that point, I told him I would have to think about it and left. 2 days later I went to another dealer and bought a Jeep with a $3K higher MSRP for literally $12.00 more than what the local dealer was offering for his Jeep and I got $2,000 more on trade than the highest number in the range he gave me.
I'm not a salesman, but I would think insulting your potential customer's current car and then giving them an ultimatum before you "go to bat for them" are things you want to avoid. I know what he was trying to say about the trade, but it still isn't a good look IMO and used STi's (in my area at least) hold their value very well and sell quick.
But you've gotta know going in that those internet prices always include a combination of every single price incentive/promotion they've got going on; a combo that not any one person can qualify for everything.
The internet price is the "get you in the door" price
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I guarantee either that salesman was 50+ years old, or he was trained by a guy who was/is 50+ years old. Definitely old school mentality to get some sort of commitment before giving hard numbers.
Reasoning behind it is they can give you their best price on the Jeep and best trade in value on your STi....then you can take that piece of paper to another dealer and they will beat it by $50. At that point, you're already at the second store so you might as well do it.
Pretty much why the dealer dance is what it is. The factories have crunched the numbers and if a customer interacts and gets numbers and walks out the door, 98% chance you will never see them again.
Even when I went into the Dodge store and got numbers, the sales manager made a last ditch pitch to get me to commit. It is how dealers dance the dance that separates the good ones from the bad ones.