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<blockquote data-quote="BlackBolt9" data-source="post: 8751363" data-attributes="member: 36489"><p>I will disagree with you on these things. Pad bed in is manufacturer specific and you should contact that specific manufacturer about their procedures. Just as an example, the Performance Friction pads we run in the Koni Challenge race cars don't "need" to be bedded per se. The drivers go out on brand new pads and scuff them in during the warm up and recon laps before the race start all the time. FWIW Hawk is usually pretty good about returning emails to their tech department. I had an answer within a few days when I asked about pads for the stock Lightning brakes.</p><p></p><p>As far as the rotors, I haven't heard this from a manufacturer but from experience rotor seasoning is more important with cheap rotors than expensive ones. For our endurance races as an example, we won't use anything other than Brembo or Performance Friction rotors which don't require seasoning. We don't have the time to season as we may run out of rotor life and need to change them between qualifying and the race. We don't run Stop Tech, Coleman, etc. for this reason. Are their rotors made from a cheaper material? Cast in an inferior way? I don't have the answer but I have the knowledge that they aren't as good for whatever reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with you on using a MAF sensor, but the only problem is trying to calibrate the sensor. And yes it does need some calibration as if on one pass you get 3.5V out then the next pass you get 4V, what does that mean? A MAF function is not linear so you can't assume you are X amount better, it could be X^Y amount better without knowing what the sensor calibration curve is.</p><p></p><p>FWIW here is what I did with my Lightning on the front and rear. The front flows so much an instructor that was following me said it looked like an F1 car coming into the corner because of the giant black brake dust clouds coming out of the wheels. The rears made such a big difference that I went from blowing through a set of rear pads in a day or so to making several weekends, no changes other than the hoses.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/2nd-generation-22/506937-lightning-brake-cooling.html" target="_blank">http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/2nd-generation-22/506937-lightning-brake-cooling.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BlackBolt9, post: 8751363, member: 36489"] I will disagree with you on these things. Pad bed in is manufacturer specific and you should contact that specific manufacturer about their procedures. Just as an example, the Performance Friction pads we run in the Koni Challenge race cars don't "need" to be bedded per se. The drivers go out on brand new pads and scuff them in during the warm up and recon laps before the race start all the time. FWIW Hawk is usually pretty good about returning emails to their tech department. I had an answer within a few days when I asked about pads for the stock Lightning brakes. As far as the rotors, I haven't heard this from a manufacturer but from experience rotor seasoning is more important with cheap rotors than expensive ones. For our endurance races as an example, we won't use anything other than Brembo or Performance Friction rotors which don't require seasoning. We don't have the time to season as we may run out of rotor life and need to change them between qualifying and the race. We don't run Stop Tech, Coleman, etc. for this reason. Are their rotors made from a cheaper material? Cast in an inferior way? I don't have the answer but I have the knowledge that they aren't as good for whatever reason. I agree with you on using a MAF sensor, but the only problem is trying to calibrate the sensor. And yes it does need some calibration as if on one pass you get 3.5V out then the next pass you get 4V, what does that mean? A MAF function is not linear so you can't assume you are X amount better, it could be X^Y amount better without knowing what the sensor calibration curve is. FWIW here is what I did with my Lightning on the front and rear. The front flows so much an instructor that was following me said it looked like an F1 car coming into the corner because of the giant black brake dust clouds coming out of the wheels. The rears made such a big difference that I went from blowing through a set of rear pads in a day or so to making several weekends, no changes other than the hoses. [url]http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/2nd-generation-22/506937-lightning-brake-cooling.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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