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<blockquote data-quote="Blkkbgt" data-source="post: 16485795" data-attributes="member: 117234"><p>I've been researching big brake setups for a while now and have taken a hard look at a few you've mentioned. None of them are perfect in my eyes.</p><p></p><p>Wilwood seems like a good option until you realize that their kits run their rotors. They also seem to have somewhat limited pad options last I checked.</p><p></p><p>If you go this route I'd run the FTBR 14in kit. This would give you at a minimum better rotor options as the kit uses 07-12 gt500 rotors. The downside here is the weight gain of the larger rotor and you now need to run 18s. You also need to address the rear to keep the bias in check. I priced this all out running 4 piston wilwoods and came out to about $1100. Now add in the cost of addressing the rear bias. You could do it cheap with the 43mm taurus calipers but I don't know where that actually puts the bias and if its acceptable or not.</p><p></p><p>Baer brakes either 13 or 14 in are out for me. The biggest issue for me with them is that you cannot change pads without unbolting the caliper. I plan on tracking my car and swapping pads is far easier than with Brembos. If you buy the front calipers and run stock 13 inch Cobra rotors you're looking at $1200 I believe and $2000 with their rotors. If you're willing to spend 2k I'd rather run stop tech. </p><p></p><p>Stop tech is a great option but if you're running the stock 17s up front they won't clear. The other thing I dont like is you have to buy their rotor rings. The entry level setup with 4 piston calipers runs about $2100.</p><p></p><p>The Brembo Cobra R setup is a great option and there is no bias issue created. Have fun finding the kit right now though. From what I understand there are no plans to bring it back and nobody I could find has one in stock. Last time I looked the kit was $1300 but again it may be gone forever. </p><p></p><p>For me the best bang for the buck seems to be the ATS setup. The bias issue that is created can be fixed with either 13 inch rear rotors or the older taurus rear 43mm calipers that Mustang5L5 came up with. I can run 17s if I want and easily swap pads. The stock 13 inch rotors will be around forever and are easily found at any parts store. I also have tons of pad options all the way around.</p><p></p><p>The one thing that nobody is 100% sure of is if the master cylinder needs to be changed out. Baer makes the only 1-1/8 inch bore master cylinder for our cars and its just over $400 shipped. Just to be clear the larger master cylinder looks like it is needed to reduce the pedal travel. The brakes may be a little soft without it. Nobody has run one yet.</p><p></p><p>Totalling everything up I get about $1300 for everything. This is with inserts, new pads, rotors, calipers all the way around, fluid, master cylinder and two new lines running from the master cylinder to the proportioning valve. You can deduct about 450 ish without a new master cylinder. Add extra if you need SS lines. </p><p></p><p>Just my 2 cents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blkkbgt, post: 16485795, member: 117234"] I've been researching big brake setups for a while now and have taken a hard look at a few you've mentioned. None of them are perfect in my eyes. Wilwood seems like a good option until you realize that their kits run their rotors. They also seem to have somewhat limited pad options last I checked. If you go this route I'd run the FTBR 14in kit. This would give you at a minimum better rotor options as the kit uses 07-12 gt500 rotors. The downside here is the weight gain of the larger rotor and you now need to run 18s. You also need to address the rear to keep the bias in check. I priced this all out running 4 piston wilwoods and came out to about $1100. Now add in the cost of addressing the rear bias. You could do it cheap with the 43mm taurus calipers but I don't know where that actually puts the bias and if its acceptable or not. Baer brakes either 13 or 14 in are out for me. The biggest issue for me with them is that you cannot change pads without unbolting the caliper. I plan on tracking my car and swapping pads is far easier than with Brembos. If you buy the front calipers and run stock 13 inch Cobra rotors you're looking at $1200 I believe and $2000 with their rotors. If you're willing to spend 2k I'd rather run stop tech. Stop tech is a great option but if you're running the stock 17s up front they won't clear. The other thing I dont like is you have to buy their rotor rings. The entry level setup with 4 piston calipers runs about $2100. The Brembo Cobra R setup is a great option and there is no bias issue created. Have fun finding the kit right now though. From what I understand there are no plans to bring it back and nobody I could find has one in stock. Last time I looked the kit was $1300 but again it may be gone forever. For me the best bang for the buck seems to be the ATS setup. The bias issue that is created can be fixed with either 13 inch rear rotors or the older taurus rear 43mm calipers that Mustang5L5 came up with. I can run 17s if I want and easily swap pads. The stock 13 inch rotors will be around forever and are easily found at any parts store. I also have tons of pad options all the way around. The one thing that nobody is 100% sure of is if the master cylinder needs to be changed out. Baer makes the only 1-1/8 inch bore master cylinder for our cars and its just over $400 shipped. Just to be clear the larger master cylinder looks like it is needed to reduce the pedal travel. The brakes may be a little soft without it. Nobody has run one yet. Totalling everything up I get about $1300 for everything. This is with inserts, new pads, rotors, calipers all the way around, fluid, master cylinder and two new lines running from the master cylinder to the proportioning valve. You can deduct about 450 ish without a new master cylinder. Add extra if you need SS lines. Just my 2 cents. [/QUOTE]
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