Black Gold 380R's 65 Mustang Build Thread

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I wish I could find the tape the factory used, it feels like vinyl electrical tape but obviously has no adhesive. You'd think it would be common knowledge all over the vintage ford/mustang sites but I've never found a good answer. For my 64 Falcon I switched to the silicone tape, I love that it doesn't have the adhesive but it doesn't have the look or feel of vinyl tape.
 

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I wish I could find the tape the factory used, it feels like vinyl electrical tape but obviously has no adhesive. You'd think it would be common knowledge all over the vintage ford/mustang sites but I've never found a good answer. For my 64 Falcon I switched to the silicone tape, I love that it doesn't have the adhesive but it doesn't have the look or feel of vinyl tape.

Hello Mike. I had no idea the factory had that kind of tape. When I took my factory wiring harness apart it was wrapped in electrical tape and it was a sticky mess. Even after the tape was removed my wires were still covered in adhesive. Pain in the _ _ _......

So, either my factory harness came with electrical tap or someone who owned the car before 1989 (that's when I took ownership) rewrapped the harness.
 

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Hello Mike. I had no idea the factory had that kind of tape. When I took my factory wiring harness apart it was wrapped in electrical tape and it was a sticky mess. Even after the tape was removed my wires were still covered in adhesive. Pain in the _ _ _......

So, either my factory harness came with electrical tap or someone who owned the car before 1989 (that's when I took ownership) rewrapped the harness.

On all my old Fords the tape feels like electrical tape but leaves no residue when removed. I was just helping my dad add AC to his 66 Fairlane GT and we stripped the needed wiring out of the the dash harness on his 67 Fairlane parts car. The stuff just peels right off once you get it started, I'd love to use the same stuff on all my cars.
 

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Hello All,

Well, it was kind of a weird weekend for me. I started out taking measurements to ensure my bellhousing was centered on my crankshaft. Once I was finished with that I called my local performance shop to see if they had the offset dowel pins I needed, but nope. After that I had to stop working on the engine/transmission project as I need the dowel pins before I can move forward and install my clutch.

So, it was either take the weekend off or figure out something else to do. You know my OCD wouldn't let me just do nothing LMAO!!!! I'm at a point in the project that I really can't do anything on the car until the engine and transmission are back in the car.

So, I figured I would repaint parts that need it.


This is the only picture I took of the measurement process. There are plenty of "how to" videos on YouTube on this and honestly, I got wrapped up in this process and forgot to take more pictures LOL. BTW, my bellhousing is off by .036 in the 5 o'clock position. So, I need to move my bellhousing in the direction of 5 o'clock using a .021 offset dowel pin (.036 divided by 2 = .018). So, .021 offset dowel pin will get me within spec.
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So after getting my measurement I figured I would start to paint parts that needed it. I first started out with my grill cover panel because it was the easiest. This was already body worked and primed and guide coat applied when the engine bay was prepared. So, this didn't require much attention.
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Guide coat sanded and panel is ready for final coat of primer.
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Panel in final primer. I wet sanded this with 600 grit and it is ready for color.
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Kind of dark, but here it is in color (i.e. basecoat).
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And here it is in clear coat. Came out pretty nice. Will let it dry and then cut and buff in a couple of days.
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You can really see the reflection of my garage door in the clear.
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Okay, then I focused on my stone guard. This one was in bad shape. First there were burn marks on the paint as I needed to cut off the mounting tabs and reweld them in the correct position to fit on my new radiator support that I installed. Then it appears the last body shop painted this part on the car and could not paint it properly as this part sits under the grill.

Here you can see the passenger side burn mark and a line in the clear coat marking where the original body shop could not clear it properly.
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Driver's side of stone guard.
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As they say there are plenty of ways to skin a cat. The way I like to handle these kinds of issues is to sand out the chip, nick or imperfection and feather it out.
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Driver's side......
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I primed the whole thing, wet sanded it with 600 grit and then sprayed the basecoat. Passenger side.
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Driver's side........
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Here it is in clear. You can clearly see the orange peel here. That's okay. Cut and buff will fix her right up.
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Driver's side.
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Okay, all that work and it was only Saturday LOL.

Sunday I decided to take on the front valance. Again, this one was in bad shape. After taking a closer look at the front valance and combining it with the paint work I found on the stone guard I came to the conclusion that the original body shop took short cuts. I can't complain too much as they did not charge me a huge amount for the paint job.

Guess this goes back to the old saying "you get what you pay for." That's okay. I'm doing it right this time.

As mentioned it was in bad shape. This one was not painted all the way to the bottom, there were a bunch of dirt nibs in the paint, orange peel, runs and dry spots (i.e. not enough clear coat).

Time to get it right.

Here you can see the orange peel in the paint. And I have not even touched this yet LOL.
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It's hard to see, but in my finger reflection there is a run in the clear coat.
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You can see the bottom does not have full coverage.
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Another shot of the bottom. And no that is not a scrape mark. My car is not that low.
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Here I started sanding and the dirt nibs are showing.
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This air vent area was the area that looked dry. Like they did not get enough clear in here. Yet they managed to get a run on the outside of this area LOL.
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Here it is sanded and ready for primer.
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Passenger side.
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Driver's side.
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I was able to get it in primer and wet sanded with 600 grit. However, it started to get very windy. I have to have my garage door slightly opened to allow for air flow and to vent/exhaust the overspray. With the amount of wind it was blowing too much dirt and dust into my garage. All that would end up in my paint/clear coat. So, I had to call it a day and close up shop. Damn you mother nature LMAO!!!!
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Hello All,

Well, it was kind of a weird weekend for me. I started out taking measurements to ensure my bellhousing was centered on my crankshaft. Once I was finished with that I called my local performance shop to see if they had the offset dowel pins I needed, but nope. After that I had to stop working on the engine/transmission project as I need the dowel pins before I can move forward and install my clutch.

So, it was either take the weekend off or figure out something else to do. You know my OCD wouldn't let me just do nothing LMAO!!!! I'm at a point in the project that I really can't do anything on the car until the engine and transmission are back in the car.

So, I figured I would repaint parts that need it.


This is the only picture I took of the measurement process. There are plenty of "how to" videos on YouTube on this and honestly, I got wrapped up in this process and forgot to take more pictures LOL. BTW, my bellhousing is off by .036 in the 5 o'clock position. So, I need to move my bellhousing in the direction of 5 o'clock using a .021 offset dowel pin (.036 divided by 2 = .018). So, .021 offset dowel pin will get me within spec.
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drives me crazy there are no offset dowel pins for mod motors. My quicktime housing is off a hair so you get the slightest screech on startup. Knock on wood it doesn't seem to be an issue so far (maybe 5k miles on it this way). Every now and then someone who knows their stuff will be like "wtf was that" but usually they hear the blower and such and think nothing of it.
 

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Looking good. Keep it going. I always look forward to seeing your progress.


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drives me crazy there are no offset dowel pins for mod motors. My quicktime housing is off a hair so you get the slightest screech on startup. Knock on wood it doesn't seem to be an issue so far (maybe 5k miles on it this way). Every now and then someone who knows their stuff will be like "wtf was that" but usually they hear the blower and such and think nothing of it.
You know DSG I noticed that when I was looking for these dowel pins. Under "Ford" it specifically said, not for 4.6L. That sucks.

I originally wasn't going to do this. I was thinking "if it's off it won't hurt anything." Then I read that American Powertrain won't warranty my transmission and seen all the videos of people saying how the side load could cause bearing damage or other problems.

I was like damn it. Better do it lol.

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Good stuff man.
I wish I had your skills.
Thank you tones! I'm really not very good. My welding is not that great. My cutting and shaping metal is not that great. However, I do try to clean things up metal wise to make it look good LOL. I've also been playing with automotive paint for years now. So, I have been able to develop those skills.

I do have lofty goals and have done a lot of research while the car was up on blocks. I'm lucky as I also have friends who have better skills than me and they have helped me too. A friend welded in my front suspension and a body shop guy helped me spray the engine bay, but I am doing a lot myself too.

Thank you very much for your kind words my friend. It's greatly appreciated.

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Looking good. Keep it going. I always look forward to seeing your progress.


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Thank you Todd! I always wonder how many folks are keeping up with this build.

Glad to know you look forward to my Monday morning updates and glad you're along for the journey my friend.

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You've been busy, Glenn. Nice body work. Geez, is there anything you can't or won't do? Keep plugging away. Every completed task is a step closer to the finish line.
 

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You've been busy, Glenn. Nice body work. Geez, is there anything you can't or won't do? Keep plugging away. Every completed task is a step closer to the finish line.

Thank you Bob! My brother always told me that as long as I do "something" on the car progress is being made. So, I try to do "something" every weekend :D.

As far as can't or won't do....... I don't think there is anything I won't do as I'm willing to learn. Now there are things I can't do. I can't assemble a short block as I do not know how to run clearances for bearings. I cannot rebuild a transmission. Too much stuff in there that I don't understand LOL. I cannot rebuild a rear-end. Again don't know how to run the clearances. Lastly, I don't know how to sew. So, no interiors for me. I'm willing to learn those things, but don't know how to do them right now :(.
 

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Okay everyone,

got home after work yesterday and it was still a little too breezy to paint for my comfort. So, I had dinner and waited to see if things would settle down. Around 6 it was calm enough to paint. So, I painted the front valance.

I'm VERY happy with how it came out. Should look great once it's cut and buffed.

Since it sat in the garage overnight I went over it with wax and grease remover to clean it up and get it ready for paint.
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Got it in color. Making sure this air vent area is fully covered.
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Passenger side. The paint is still a little damp, so that orangish hue is the reflection of my T-shirt.
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Driver's side.
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Making sure I got it all the way to the bottom.
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Here it is in clear coat. Hot damn, it looks WAY better than what the body shop did :eek:. VERY happy with the results.
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Love it in clear coat. Can't wait to cut and buff this part.
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Here is the air vent area that looked dry last time. I made sure there was enough clear in there this time. Should buff out nicely.
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This is where the run was last time. No runs now and it has great coverage.
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Overall shot. Again I'm really happy with how this turned out :D.
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Nice work. Nothin' like doin' it yourself, so that you know it's done right.

Thank you kazman! You know I would like to think that when you pay someone or a company good money they would do it right. However, after looking at my parts it was obvious the body shop did not do it right. And I'm not sure why. Is it a time/money thing (i.e. get it done and get it out the door)? Is it a disgruntled employee thing? Is it just a lazy/don't give a _ _ _ _ thing? I'm sure it's a combination of all those things LMAO!!!

Then again I need to take some responsibility too. I should have inspected the car a little closer before accepting it.

I'm no expert and I hope I do things right, but I am ensuring things are done to a level that I'm either happy with or can at least live with LOL.

Thanks again brother! Appreciate your comment.
 

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