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Best Mail Order Tune, 11-14GT & 12-13 Boss
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<blockquote data-quote="beefcake" data-source="post: 13809770" data-attributes="member: 1692"><p>You mean "in your opinion" it looks horrible. </p><p></p><p>You are entitled to your opinion, just as everyone is. I've never said that you can't.</p><p></p><p>Someone else's opinion might be. Wow, that's pretty good that Lund is offering a service that I would like to have at no charge.</p><p></p><p>So, in mine, and Lund's opinion. It's something some customers have asked for and something that they want, so they are going to give it to them. So, sorry for trying to cater to the customer. </p><p></p><p>As Lund continues to expand, and they have some pretty big things on the horizon, they are looking to cater to all types of customers. There will be some customers that want their logs looked at.</p><p></p><p>And there will be others that understand how repeatable the tunes are and don't need smoke and mirrors, especially with the adaptive learning on these cars.</p><p></p><p>People who really understand how these cars work, know that the car has a great capacity to adapt.</p><p></p><p>I have watched customers who have experimented with adding 20% e85 into their tune. And have posted the logs of the car adapting. Starting off with STFTs running off the wanted 1.00 to compensate, and eventually transposing into the LTFTs, where the STFT's no longer need to compensate. </p><p></p><p>The blend is learned in the car over time, with no retune needed.</p><p></p><p>So, if a car, that has had it's fuel stoich changed by a full point, can adapt. You think that a car that has say a set of long tubes added, gets a tune for the lt's, even if it's off by a hair, isn't going to adjust?</p><p></p><p>You take 2 identical cars, with the exact same pcm code, with the exact same mods, and tune one, you can be pretty sure, that the other is going to run just as good. </p><p></p><p>Your a Ford Tech, when Ford does a pcm reflash, they reflash all the pcm's with the exact same flash for their code don't they? They don't ask for logs back do they?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>what, that you have an opinion, your opinion is all that matters, and everyone should agree with you.</p><p></p><p>not my style</p><p></p><p>at the end of they day, you've criticized Lund because Shaun offers "more to the customer" </p><p></p><p>So now Lund is offering the same thing, and at 20% less. </p><p></p><p>Now it's a bad thing, and you have to beat it down.</p><p></p><p><strong>You ask me to stay out of Shaun's stuff, which I've obliged and done. But then something good gets posted about Lund, and your right there to bash it because it might take business from your tuner.</strong></p><p></p><p>Tell you what, when you take those Lethal classes, then I will....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beefcake, post: 13809770, member: 1692"] You mean "in your opinion" it looks horrible. You are entitled to your opinion, just as everyone is. I've never said that you can't. Someone else's opinion might be. Wow, that's pretty good that Lund is offering a service that I would like to have at no charge. So, in mine, and Lund's opinion. It's something some customers have asked for and something that they want, so they are going to give it to them. So, sorry for trying to cater to the customer. As Lund continues to expand, and they have some pretty big things on the horizon, they are looking to cater to all types of customers. There will be some customers that want their logs looked at. And there will be others that understand how repeatable the tunes are and don't need smoke and mirrors, especially with the adaptive learning on these cars. People who really understand how these cars work, know that the car has a great capacity to adapt. I have watched customers who have experimented with adding 20% e85 into their tune. And have posted the logs of the car adapting. Starting off with STFTs running off the wanted 1.00 to compensate, and eventually transposing into the LTFTs, where the STFT's no longer need to compensate. The blend is learned in the car over time, with no retune needed. So, if a car, that has had it's fuel stoich changed by a full point, can adapt. You think that a car that has say a set of long tubes added, gets a tune for the lt's, even if it's off by a hair, isn't going to adjust? You take 2 identical cars, with the exact same pcm code, with the exact same mods, and tune one, you can be pretty sure, that the other is going to run just as good. Your a Ford Tech, when Ford does a pcm reflash, they reflash all the pcm's with the exact same flash for their code don't they? They don't ask for logs back do they? what, that you have an opinion, your opinion is all that matters, and everyone should agree with you. not my style at the end of they day, you've criticized Lund because Shaun offers "more to the customer" So now Lund is offering the same thing, and at 20% less. Now it's a bad thing, and you have to beat it down. [B]You ask me to stay out of Shaun's stuff, which I've obliged and done. But then something good gets posted about Lund, and your right there to bash it because it might take business from your tuner.[/B] Tell you what, when you take those Lethal classes, then I will.... [/QUOTE]
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