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Availability of CFHP on '21 GT500
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<blockquote data-quote="13COBRA" data-source="post: 16588048" data-attributes="member: 138337"><p>I think you're confused on term usage. Ford allows plant managers, executives, etc to drive vehicles. Those vehicles are ordered, and delivered to a dealership of the end user's choice. These vehicles are not regularly allocated vehicles, nor do dealerships earn money or future allocations from facilitating a delivery to the end user. I suppose a CFHP GT500 <u><strong>could</strong></u> possibly fall under this category, however I doubt it, and the run of CFHP is <u><strong>CERTAINLY</strong></u> not limited to only this type of order.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is just outlandish. Yes, A/Z/X/D Plan Pricing is a set price based on the vehicle, trim line and optional equipment. You are speaking way out of sorts. A Plan buyer can go into ANY dealership they choose, pick out ANY vehicle they want (minus Shelby, Raptor), and that vehicle has a Plan Price printed on the invoice. At that point, the buyer just calls a 1-800 number, gives them their name, address, last four of social and boom, a 7 digit PIN is generated that allows the dealership to recoup the discounts. Your statement saying "sometimes they are even given additional allocations" is 100% bullshit as well. Whether you sell a vehicle for A Plan, $100k over MSRP, $50k under MSRP, etc...it still counts towards your future allocation. If your local dealership used to handle Plan deals through their Fleet Sales Office, that was a personal choice by your dealership, and has nothing to do with any other dealership on the planet. I'm 15 minutes from the Kansas City F-150 Plant, and 90% of our new vehicle business is A/Z Plan business. It's just a normal deal, just with 0 negotiation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as the "VIP sale" you speak of, it's actually called a Courtesy Delivery in real life. Dealerships DO NOT make money doing these. But why would a dealership refuse to do it for a Ford executive of some sort? They wouldn't. We do about 20 a year with the various plant managers in the area, their wives and some of the big wigs at the local Ford Credit branch. There are NO sales contracts on courtesy delivery vehicles, period. They're all done through Ford Motor Company. The delivering dealership does get tags for the vehicle, the vehicle is tagged to Ford Motor Company. A Plan is COMPLETELY different. A Plan, the customer buys the vehicle in their name. All Ford Motor Company employees qualify for A Plan, whether you're making $12/hour on the line just starting out, or making $6mil a year. These are normal deals. No different than if a random customer walked in and wanted to buy a vehicle off of the lot.</p><p></p><p>All A/Z/X Plan deals go through sales staff. Would it blow your mind if I told you that dealerships made more money off of A/Z/D/X Plan deals than they do off of regular retail deals? Well, BOOM. It's true. On a regular F-150 retail deal, we'll make about $1,000 or so. On an A Plan deal, we'd be able to sell the truck for $1,800+ less, and make an additional $1200, so $2,200.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, <strong>YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.</strong></p><p></p><p>Courtesy Delivery vehicles are not allocated. They are not sold. Dealerships don't make money off of them. They do not count towards current or future allocation. Nothing. They basically show up, get filled with gas, tags on it, and get picked up. Done.</p><p></p><p>A/X/Z/D Plan vehicles ARE allocated. They do count towards retail sales. They do count towards current and future allocations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With all due respect, I sure hope you're more versed in putting out fires than you are speaking about Ford's allocation system. I've seen some of your posts on 6G as well. Just stop.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="13COBRA, post: 16588048, member: 138337"] I think you're confused on term usage. Ford allows plant managers, executives, etc to drive vehicles. Those vehicles are ordered, and delivered to a dealership of the end user's choice. These vehicles are not regularly allocated vehicles, nor do dealerships earn money or future allocations from facilitating a delivery to the end user. I suppose a CFHP GT500 [U][b]could[/b][/U] possibly fall under this category, however I doubt it, and the run of CFHP is [U][b]CERTAINLY[/b][/U] not limited to only this type of order. This is just outlandish. Yes, A/Z/X/D Plan Pricing is a set price based on the vehicle, trim line and optional equipment. You are speaking way out of sorts. A Plan buyer can go into ANY dealership they choose, pick out ANY vehicle they want (minus Shelby, Raptor), and that vehicle has a Plan Price printed on the invoice. At that point, the buyer just calls a 1-800 number, gives them their name, address, last four of social and boom, a 7 digit PIN is generated that allows the dealership to recoup the discounts. Your statement saying "sometimes they are even given additional allocations" is 100% bullshit as well. Whether you sell a vehicle for A Plan, $100k over MSRP, $50k under MSRP, etc...it still counts towards your future allocation. If your local dealership used to handle Plan deals through their Fleet Sales Office, that was a personal choice by your dealership, and has nothing to do with any other dealership on the planet. I'm 15 minutes from the Kansas City F-150 Plant, and 90% of our new vehicle business is A/Z Plan business. It's just a normal deal, just with 0 negotiation. As far as the "VIP sale" you speak of, it's actually called a Courtesy Delivery in real life. Dealerships DO NOT make money doing these. But why would a dealership refuse to do it for a Ford executive of some sort? They wouldn't. We do about 20 a year with the various plant managers in the area, their wives and some of the big wigs at the local Ford Credit branch. There are NO sales contracts on courtesy delivery vehicles, period. They're all done through Ford Motor Company. The delivering dealership does get tags for the vehicle, the vehicle is tagged to Ford Motor Company. A Plan is COMPLETELY different. A Plan, the customer buys the vehicle in their name. All Ford Motor Company employees qualify for A Plan, whether you're making $12/hour on the line just starting out, or making $6mil a year. These are normal deals. No different than if a random customer walked in and wanted to buy a vehicle off of the lot. All A/Z/X Plan deals go through sales staff. Would it blow your mind if I told you that dealerships made more money off of A/Z/D/X Plan deals than they do off of regular retail deals? Well, BOOM. It's true. On a regular F-150 retail deal, we'll make about $1,000 or so. On an A Plan deal, we'd be able to sell the truck for $1,800+ less, and make an additional $1200, so $2,200. Again, [b]YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.[/b] Courtesy Delivery vehicles are not allocated. They are not sold. Dealerships don't make money off of them. They do not count towards current or future allocation. Nothing. They basically show up, get filled with gas, tags on it, and get picked up. Done. A/X/Z/D Plan vehicles ARE allocated. They do count towards retail sales. They do count towards current and future allocations. With all due respect, I sure hope you're more versed in putting out fires than you are speaking about Ford's allocation system. I've seen some of your posts on 6G as well. Just stop. [/QUOTE]
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