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Anyone ever file a complaint after being pulled over without suspected Probable Cause?
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<blockquote data-quote="cbj5259" data-source="post: 16290780" data-attributes="member: 75268"><p>Terry V. Ohio is it's own rabbit hole...it requires reasonable suspicion but also other factors as well such as, but not limited to: high crime area, previous knowledge of the offender having weapons, a bulge indicative of a concealed weapon, presence of contributing hand in hand crimes (ie where there are drugs there are usually guns) etc. Furthermore the search is not as thorough as a search incident to arrest. It is strictly for identifying and securing a potential weapon. It is not intended to be a doorway to find other illegal activit, although that sometimes happens.</p><p></p><p>As far as traffic stops go...yes, reasonable suspicion is the minimum standard an officer needs to make a stop. Probable cause is the standard that is used to make an arrest or in the case of a traffic offense, issue a summons.Reasonable suspicion requires articulation. Time of day, high crime area, previous criminal activity, etc. An officer would not have reasonable suspicion to stop a car parked in a shopping center parking lot during the day. The businesses are open to the public at that time. At night the businesses are closed, the shopping centers are still considered private property and the police in almost every jurisdiction have been tasked with keeping trespassers off those properties through ordinance.I dont believe any agency can legislate when an officer may or may not use reasonable suspicion to do their job as it is a constitutional standard. I've never heard of that ever. The agency would get challenged in every arrest they made if they were stupid enough to actually make that a written policy.</p><p></p><p>Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cbj5259, post: 16290780, member: 75268"] Terry V. Ohio is it's own rabbit hole...it requires reasonable suspicion but also other factors as well such as, but not limited to: high crime area, previous knowledge of the offender having weapons, a bulge indicative of a concealed weapon, presence of contributing hand in hand crimes (ie where there are drugs there are usually guns) etc. Furthermore the search is not as thorough as a search incident to arrest. It is strictly for identifying and securing a potential weapon. It is not intended to be a doorway to find other illegal activit, although that sometimes happens. As far as traffic stops go...yes, reasonable suspicion is the minimum standard an officer needs to make a stop. Probable cause is the standard that is used to make an arrest or in the case of a traffic offense, issue a summons.Reasonable suspicion requires articulation. Time of day, high crime area, previous criminal activity, etc. An officer would not have reasonable suspicion to stop a car parked in a shopping center parking lot during the day. The businesses are open to the public at that time. At night the businesses are closed, the shopping centers are still considered private property and the police in almost every jurisdiction have been tasked with keeping trespassers off those properties through ordinance.I dont believe any agency can legislate when an officer may or may not use reasonable suspicion to do their job as it is a constitutional standard. I've never heard of that ever. The agency would get challenged in every arrest they made if they were stupid enough to actually make that a written policy. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
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