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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 15809551" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>I’ve seen decent mileage from my built setup, and mustangs in general, but no better than Camaros or corvettes. What I do notice in mustangs and Camaros is the extra torque in the chevys. They gear them much more like 03 cobra’s, and they almost pull from very low like an 03 cobra. </p><p></p><p>The coyote cars are geared like a Miata, and they feel soft at 2000rpm compared with on the Chevys. 3750lbs and 300-325tq at that rpm is a little soft. The Camaro is around 3650 with about 375-400tq at 2000rpm. Makes a lot of difference. </p><p></p><p>For all the extra around town power, the 6.2L basically gets the same mpg as the ford, but it’s a much easier engine and to find power in na.</p><p></p><p>At evil twin, so if you want to talk power today, I think the lt1 is better overal vs the gen 3 coyote. A gen 3 coyote is more expensive than an lt1, and it fits easier in anything.</p><p></p><p>Someone said coyote swaps are common in foxes, and sure they are. But it’s much more involved than putting in an lt1 or a Ford ohv would be.</p><p></p><p>Stepping back to my original point, ohv v8’s have gotten to be so good (lt1’s, mopar 6.1/6.4 LT4, etc) that the argument for a dohc us mute save rev happy driving. That said, just as ohv’s have evolved into having cylinder deactivation, direct injection, variable valve timing, etc, I think it wouldn’t be very hard to also build one with heavier duty components and some enginuity that could smoothly rev to 8000rpm nice and safe. It may not be 6.2L, but 5.5-6.0 with a short stroke and wide bore wouldn’t be a real issue to get 8k out of.</p><p></p><p>Again I have put my money where my mouth is, and drank all the koolaid, but the reality I’ve seen is if 400-800hp is the goal, put an ohv in and build it to meet your desired build.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 15809551, member: 68944"] I’ve seen decent mileage from my built setup, and mustangs in general, but no better than Camaros or corvettes. What I do notice in mustangs and Camaros is the extra torque in the chevys. They gear them much more like 03 cobra’s, and they almost pull from very low like an 03 cobra. The coyote cars are geared like a Miata, and they feel soft at 2000rpm compared with on the Chevys. 3750lbs and 300-325tq at that rpm is a little soft. The Camaro is around 3650 with about 375-400tq at 2000rpm. Makes a lot of difference. For all the extra around town power, the 6.2L basically gets the same mpg as the ford, but it’s a much easier engine and to find power in na. At evil twin, so if you want to talk power today, I think the lt1 is better overal vs the gen 3 coyote. A gen 3 coyote is more expensive than an lt1, and it fits easier in anything. Someone said coyote swaps are common in foxes, and sure they are. But it’s much more involved than putting in an lt1 or a Ford ohv would be. Stepping back to my original point, ohv v8’s have gotten to be so good (lt1’s, mopar 6.1/6.4 LT4, etc) that the argument for a dohc us mute save rev happy driving. That said, just as ohv’s have evolved into having cylinder deactivation, direct injection, variable valve timing, etc, I think it wouldn’t be very hard to also build one with heavier duty components and some enginuity that could smoothly rev to 8000rpm nice and safe. It may not be 6.2L, but 5.5-6.0 with a short stroke and wide bore wouldn’t be a real issue to get 8k out of. Again I have put my money where my mouth is, and drank all the koolaid, but the reality I’ve seen is if 400-800hp is the goal, put an ohv in and build it to meet your desired build. [/QUOTE]
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