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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 15788085" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>You’d chose to shift an auto with the paddles because you like the act of driving. Going fast is easy. For a lot of people that’s all they want.</p><p></p><p>If you enjoy manipulating the car to go fast, you typically find the optimum shift points, and like to get the satisfaction of envolvement.</p><p></p><p>I’ve rarely met an excellent driver that prefers an auto (can’t recall any honestly) but almost everyone I know who is at best amateur with a stick much prefers auto. I know a guy in his 70’s with terrible knees that have won auto-x and drag racing gamblers cups who still drive a stick like it’s a lost art of the aliens. That said I know a hundred people+ 18 and up that can’t come close to driving like he can, and they prefer auto’s. It makes sense. If you can’t drive the car any better with a manual why bother. I get that, I don’t get defending that position as if the manual driver is always mistaken/foolish. There’s going fast, which is very enjoyable, and theirs truly driving the car, which is a different fun activity but also very rewarding. You can race down an easy hill on skis or cut some aggressive back country routes. Neither act is slandering the other, but it’s a lot easier to go fast straight/mild bends than running a double black diamond fast.</p><p></p><p>I think auto is an older, more relaxed persons gambit, and manual is a younger more envolved persons gambit. No harm in either activity. At this time I have 3 manual cars/trucks and an automatic work truck. I don’t like towing with a manual because they aren’t strong enough usually. That said I hate towing with an auto because they are so hell bent on upshifting. I lock them in gear or constantly move the flappy’s/shifter... anyways.</p><p></p><p>No harm either way from Ford by offering an auto or dct. So long as they also offer a great manual, demand will flow it’s capitalist goodness. Dodge and Chevy obviously get this too. The hellcat is not an auto-x player, but dodge still did the smart thing and offers a manual. I’d imagine their demographic is at best 10% of the hellcat order pool.</p><p></p><p>Again, as I don’t hear anyone explaining why, my problem with auto’s is that regardless of which mode they are in, they only shift fast when being driven wot, or braking heavy. If you are driving at 5-6/10th, as in a mild canyon run, they are lazy and shift out of synch with the rhythm dictated.</p><p></p><p>It’s like having a contractor that is pretty good, but takes 2-3 days longer on every project and always gets the paint 1-2 shades off. It’s not a deal breaker but doing it yourself when you get it done on time and the right color without blemish’s is more enjoyable regardless of the effort put-assuming you aren’t a putz and don’t screw it all up. And honestly, when you do something yourself, the flaws don’t show up as often because we all have an ego.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 15788085, member: 68944"] You’d chose to shift an auto with the paddles because you like the act of driving. Going fast is easy. For a lot of people that’s all they want. If you enjoy manipulating the car to go fast, you typically find the optimum shift points, and like to get the satisfaction of envolvement. I’ve rarely met an excellent driver that prefers an auto (can’t recall any honestly) but almost everyone I know who is at best amateur with a stick much prefers auto. I know a guy in his 70’s with terrible knees that have won auto-x and drag racing gamblers cups who still drive a stick like it’s a lost art of the aliens. That said I know a hundred people+ 18 and up that can’t come close to driving like he can, and they prefer auto’s. It makes sense. If you can’t drive the car any better with a manual why bother. I get that, I don’t get defending that position as if the manual driver is always mistaken/foolish. There’s going fast, which is very enjoyable, and theirs truly driving the car, which is a different fun activity but also very rewarding. You can race down an easy hill on skis or cut some aggressive back country routes. Neither act is slandering the other, but it’s a lot easier to go fast straight/mild bends than running a double black diamond fast. I think auto is an older, more relaxed persons gambit, and manual is a younger more envolved persons gambit. No harm in either activity. At this time I have 3 manual cars/trucks and an automatic work truck. I don’t like towing with a manual because they aren’t strong enough usually. That said I hate towing with an auto because they are so hell bent on upshifting. I lock them in gear or constantly move the flappy’s/shifter... anyways. No harm either way from Ford by offering an auto or dct. So long as they also offer a great manual, demand will flow it’s capitalist goodness. Dodge and Chevy obviously get this too. The hellcat is not an auto-x player, but dodge still did the smart thing and offers a manual. I’d imagine their demographic is at best 10% of the hellcat order pool. Again, as I don’t hear anyone explaining why, my problem with auto’s is that regardless of which mode they are in, they only shift fast when being driven wot, or braking heavy. If you are driving at 5-6/10th, as in a mild canyon run, they are lazy and shift out of synch with the rhythm dictated. It’s like having a contractor that is pretty good, but takes 2-3 days longer on every project and always gets the paint 1-2 shades off. It’s not a deal breaker but doing it yourself when you get it done on time and the right color without blemish’s is more enjoyable regardless of the effort put-assuming you aren’t a putz and don’t screw it all up. And honestly, when you do something yourself, the flaws don’t show up as often because we all have an ego. [/QUOTE]
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