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<blockquote data-quote="ssj4sadie" data-source="post: 16299173" data-attributes="member: 2456"><p>You have to realize respect is earned. Unfortunately a lot of service members do not think this way and have soured a lot of people’s thinking toward military. Take [USER=18779]@Coiled03[/USER] for example; he is a super smart dude, very well spoken, and articulate. I bet he could have given you some pretty solid advice or great perspective. However, this “holier than thou” attitude of service members has affected his response in this thread. This idea that service ensures respect is pervasive and will only lead to public opinion going back to Vietnam era mentality.</p><p></p><p>The only difference between civilians and service members is the Unlimited Liability Clause. We signed on that dotted line willingly and do not deserve respect for that. However, I would hope that civilians have pride in our country and recognize the military’s contribution to this nation as a whole.</p><p></p><p>There are PLENTY of civilian sector careers/companies that are leaps and bounds more professional than the military. Perhaps you should look at going into one. </p><p></p><p>This is my opinion...the vast majority of military/veterans are enlisted. Enlisted members are indoctrinated to follow rules and act as a cog in the machine. For that machine to function properly the cog has to be conditioned; this includes things like “you’re better than X”, “you’re part of the select (or elite)”, “you’re a patriot”, and “you’re part of the 1 percent” all things designed to instill a sense of supremacy. Without that sense it would be hard to convince an 18yo to do what they’re told. I could go on more, but I think you get the point on that. </p><p></p><p>So far (to my knowledge) all of the service members responding here are enlisted except for [USER=53488]@97desertCobra[/USER] (however he was enlisted at one point {prior enlisted officers are a crapshoot}). So you’re seeing a lot of that mentality bubble through in the responses. On the officer side it is much more individualistic, they are conditioned to be the machine (among many machines). Although it seems counterintuitive, it generally works out that officers “integrate” to the civilian side much better, as on the civilian side (for the most part) everyone is their own machine.</p><p></p><p>There are just as many people in the military that complain and don’t do shit they’re supposed to as there are in the military. If there were not, the military wouldn’t have the UCMJ to get ****ers back in line.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ssj4sadie, post: 16299173, member: 2456"] You have to realize respect is earned. Unfortunately a lot of service members do not think this way and have soured a lot of people’s thinking toward military. Take [USER=18779]@Coiled03[/USER] for example; he is a super smart dude, very well spoken, and articulate. I bet he could have given you some pretty solid advice or great perspective. However, this “holier than thou” attitude of service members has affected his response in this thread. This idea that service ensures respect is pervasive and will only lead to public opinion going back to Vietnam era mentality. The only difference between civilians and service members is the Unlimited Liability Clause. We signed on that dotted line willingly and do not deserve respect for that. However, I would hope that civilians have pride in our country and recognize the military’s contribution to this nation as a whole. There are PLENTY of civilian sector careers/companies that are leaps and bounds more professional than the military. Perhaps you should look at going into one. This is my opinion...the vast majority of military/veterans are enlisted. Enlisted members are indoctrinated to follow rules and act as a cog in the machine. For that machine to function properly the cog has to be conditioned; this includes things like “you’re better than X”, “you’re part of the select (or elite)”, “you’re a patriot”, and “you’re part of the 1 percent” all things designed to instill a sense of supremacy. Without that sense it would be hard to convince an 18yo to do what they’re told. I could go on more, but I think you get the point on that. So far (to my knowledge) all of the service members responding here are enlisted except for [USER=53488]@97desertCobra[/USER] (however he was enlisted at one point {prior enlisted officers are a crapshoot}). So you’re seeing a lot of that mentality bubble through in the responses. On the officer side it is much more individualistic, they are conditioned to be the machine (among many machines). Although it seems counterintuitive, it generally works out that officers “integrate” to the civilian side much better, as on the civilian side (for the most part) everyone is their own machine. There are just as many people in the military that complain and don’t do shit they’re supposed to as there are in the military. If there were not, the military wouldn’t have the UCMJ to get ****ers back in line. [/QUOTE]
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