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2022 F-150 Lightning EV | Driving Impressions & First Look | Game Changer
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<blockquote data-quote="stang99x" data-source="post: 16775226" data-attributes="member: 169847"><p>As someone who once worked for a Ford dealer, there was one general rule of thumb we all knew well and never spoke about. NEVER buy the first model of anything. They are plagued with issues. They live in the service department for an inordinate amount of time. Idiotic people pay absurdly high prices over sticker to buy them no less. The problems that people seem so willing to overlook with an EV?</p><p>1) Ford, GM, whoever. They are all forecasting massive EV sales in the next 1-3 years. There isn't enough lithium production on earth to support such sales. Thus expect delay after delay after delay as production numbers fail to hit forecasts.</p><p>2) Lithium batteries. It's like everyone just brain fogs out and forgets how bad the battery life on their phone SUCKS. After about 6 months the damn thing just drops like a rock. I have a 10 month old iPhone. It's battery management software says it's max charge today is 87%. Not the kind of shit I want to deal with in my truck I tow with. And I don't even use my phone that much. </p><p>3) Anyone else seen a lithium battery explode and burn? Seen video's of people standing in line and their vape explodes sending sparks flying from their pants. As a former mechanic, you know why EV's have giant orange power cables under the hood? That tells the FD where they can safely cut the power before trying to extract you from the mangled wrecked car that could potentially kill them trying to save you. Now imagine what happens in a car accident when those batteries short and go into flames, right under your ass that is stuck in the smashed vehicle. No thanks. </p><p></p><p>I say all that as a guy who owns a golf cart company and deals with electrics every single day. The new lithium craze is in our market to, and it's been nothing but a freaking nightmare. BMS's fail, carts are dead. Warranty takes weeks if not months. We can't even get lithium batteries right now, much less when you start seeing demand skyrocket for dealers for cars, which only serves to reinforce number 1.</p><p>And finally, there is one automaker who has avoided EV's all the way until the government pressure made them do them. Toyota. Only just this year have they decided to release an electric. They have invested their money in other tech like hydrogen because they know that electric will be prone with issues. They finally caved to the pressure to be like everyone else lest they be accused of being unfriendly to the planet. Which is laughable, considering the amount of pollution just making the battery creates, much less the power to keep it charged.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stang99x, post: 16775226, member: 169847"] As someone who once worked for a Ford dealer, there was one general rule of thumb we all knew well and never spoke about. NEVER buy the first model of anything. They are plagued with issues. They live in the service department for an inordinate amount of time. Idiotic people pay absurdly high prices over sticker to buy them no less. The problems that people seem so willing to overlook with an EV? 1) Ford, GM, whoever. They are all forecasting massive EV sales in the next 1-3 years. There isn't enough lithium production on earth to support such sales. Thus expect delay after delay after delay as production numbers fail to hit forecasts. 2) Lithium batteries. It's like everyone just brain fogs out and forgets how bad the battery life on their phone SUCKS. After about 6 months the damn thing just drops like a rock. I have a 10 month old iPhone. It's battery management software says it's max charge today is 87%. Not the kind of shit I want to deal with in my truck I tow with. And I don't even use my phone that much. 3) Anyone else seen a lithium battery explode and burn? Seen video's of people standing in line and their vape explodes sending sparks flying from their pants. As a former mechanic, you know why EV's have giant orange power cables under the hood? That tells the FD where they can safely cut the power before trying to extract you from the mangled wrecked car that could potentially kill them trying to save you. Now imagine what happens in a car accident when those batteries short and go into flames, right under your ass that is stuck in the smashed vehicle. No thanks. I say all that as a guy who owns a golf cart company and deals with electrics every single day. The new lithium craze is in our market to, and it's been nothing but a freaking nightmare. BMS's fail, carts are dead. Warranty takes weeks if not months. We can't even get lithium batteries right now, much less when you start seeing demand skyrocket for dealers for cars, which only serves to reinforce number 1. And finally, there is one automaker who has avoided EV's all the way until the government pressure made them do them. Toyota. Only just this year have they decided to release an electric. They have invested their money in other tech like hydrogen because they know that electric will be prone with issues. They finally caved to the pressure to be like everyone else lest they be accused of being unfriendly to the planet. Which is laughable, considering the amount of pollution just making the battery creates, much less the power to keep it charged. [/QUOTE]
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