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<blockquote data-quote="mustangc" data-source="post: 12081482" data-attributes="member: 87570"><p>First of all, the Saleen S7 you are referring to had an engine based on a Ford Clevor (Windsor style block with Cleveland style cylinder heads). That error fits right in with the your shallow, jealous, hateful, misinformed, adolescent rant about Carroll Shelby.</p><p></p><p>Carroll went through engineering and flight school in the Air Force, and was a test pilot (test-flying planes that were repaired after being damaged in battle) in WWII. The man had more skills and guts than you know.</p><p></p><p>That "over glorified racer" earned his reputation the hard way. He drove his first sports car race in a friends MG and won. He did so well he caught the attention of some larger teams. You don't get <em>hired</em> to drive Ferrari's and Maserati's unless you have proven your skills. If you need further proof of his legitimacy, consider he won the 24 hours of LeMans as a driver in 1959. He also had the vision to look beyond driving to learn how these teams were pulling together the engineering and driving talent to build a winning team, a skill he would exercise later in his career. </p><p></p><p>You are correct that he matched a Ford engine to an AC body to create the Cobra, but that in no way takes away from performance of that car or the accomplishment of making that car happen on a mass production scale. Nevermind Shelby's ability to pull the right people together to make the engineering changes necessary to make that car a winner on the racetrack.</p><p></p><p>While we're talking about the racetrack, don't forget when Ford wanted to beat Ferrari, their first vehicle, built by Ford of Europe, never won a single race and often didn't even finish! Who did Ford turn to when the project was an embarrassing flop? Ford gave the GT(40) to Carroll Shelby and his team and asked them to turn the lemon into gold, and that's exactly what they did. How does 1-2-3 at LeMans sound?</p><p></p><p>Sure, Shelby was a salesman and marketing ace. He did generate a lot of revenue from his name, but what is wrong with that? It only happens because his name has VALUE (otherwise people wouldn't pay for it). If you are jealous or think he was somehow greedy by virtue of his success, consider the amount of money that has been donated to the Carroll Shelby Foundation to help children who need organ transplants. More good has been done in because of his namesake than you will ever know.</p><p></p><p>You may still be saying, "I don't care how he earned his stripes or what good he has done for others, he hasn't helped me directly in any way, so I don't care". Remember that even though Shelby didn't perform any of the hands-on engineering for the current model, his personality and contribution to Ford and the automotive industry provided the INSPIRATION for the vehicle. For the 2013 model, the 200 mph top speed goal was a target inspired by Shelby. While many of us don't care about the top speed, that goal is what necessitated the 650+ horsepower we all do enjoy.</p><p></p><p>Before you trash someone of Carroll Shelby's legend, I urge to you pick up a book and learn a lot more about him. It might make you appreciate not only what he's done, but how he did it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mustangc, post: 12081482, member: 87570"] First of all, the Saleen S7 you are referring to had an engine based on a Ford Clevor (Windsor style block with Cleveland style cylinder heads). That error fits right in with the your shallow, jealous, hateful, misinformed, adolescent rant about Carroll Shelby. Carroll went through engineering and flight school in the Air Force, and was a test pilot (test-flying planes that were repaired after being damaged in battle) in WWII. The man had more skills and guts than you know. That "over glorified racer" earned his reputation the hard way. He drove his first sports car race in a friends MG and won. He did so well he caught the attention of some larger teams. You don't get [I]hired[/I] to drive Ferrari's and Maserati's unless you have proven your skills. If you need further proof of his legitimacy, consider he won the 24 hours of LeMans as a driver in 1959. He also had the vision to look beyond driving to learn how these teams were pulling together the engineering and driving talent to build a winning team, a skill he would exercise later in his career. You are correct that he matched a Ford engine to an AC body to create the Cobra, but that in no way takes away from performance of that car or the accomplishment of making that car happen on a mass production scale. Nevermind Shelby's ability to pull the right people together to make the engineering changes necessary to make that car a winner on the racetrack. While we're talking about the racetrack, don't forget when Ford wanted to beat Ferrari, their first vehicle, built by Ford of Europe, never won a single race and often didn't even finish! Who did Ford turn to when the project was an embarrassing flop? Ford gave the GT(40) to Carroll Shelby and his team and asked them to turn the lemon into gold, and that's exactly what they did. How does 1-2-3 at LeMans sound? Sure, Shelby was a salesman and marketing ace. He did generate a lot of revenue from his name, but what is wrong with that? It only happens because his name has VALUE (otherwise people wouldn't pay for it). If you are jealous or think he was somehow greedy by virtue of his success, consider the amount of money that has been donated to the Carroll Shelby Foundation to help children who need organ transplants. More good has been done in because of his namesake than you will ever know. You may still be saying, "I don't care how he earned his stripes or what good he has done for others, he hasn't helped me directly in any way, so I don't care". Remember that even though Shelby didn't perform any of the hands-on engineering for the current model, his personality and contribution to Ford and the automotive industry provided the INSPIRATION for the vehicle. For the 2013 model, the 200 mph top speed goal was a target inspired by Shelby. While many of us don't care about the top speed, that goal is what necessitated the 650+ horsepower we all do enjoy. Before you trash someone of Carroll Shelby's legend, I urge to you pick up a book and learn a lot more about him. It might make you appreciate not only what he's done, but how he did it. [/QUOTE]
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