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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight
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<blockquote data-quote="ANGREY" data-source="post: 16114908" data-attributes="member: 188865"><p>I just did. And the reason OTHER cars are coming in heavier is vastly different from the Dodges.</p><p></p><p>The ZR1 and the new 500 are stressing the scales because they've added SERIOUS cooling capcity for hardcore extended track use. Strip off all the coolers and the MASSIVE brakes and rotors, put a "normal" sized wheel and tire on those cars (i.e. forget about turning and braking or track use) and all of a sudden those cars are back in the mid 3k lb range.</p><p></p><p>The fact that Chevy and Ford are trying to mitigate those additional lbs via lightweight materials and Dodge isn't is part of my overall point. Ford and Chevy are developing NEW and innovative products. The dodge camp is just a bunch of 30 year old technology slapped together with a big, inefficient motor that advertises high HP. </p><p></p><p>A part of me loves the unapologetic "muscle car" mentality, but Dodge takes that too far. I could get over the fact that they only make 840 CRANK HP on a 6.2 liter blown motor on RACE FUEL, but the rest of the car is a relic. I could get past the car weighing 2.5 tons IF it were a tradeoff for other performance issues (like coolers and massive brakes and the wheels to fit them, etc).</p><p></p><p>I could also get past all that if Dodge sold the Demon/Hellcat at a much lower price point (aka, you're buying a big fat car that doesn't turn or brake well and has a 30 year old motor in it making pretty sad numbers....but it's dirt cheap).</p><p></p><p>The fact that it's expensive just makes me laugh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ANGREY, post: 16114908, member: 188865"] I just did. And the reason OTHER cars are coming in heavier is vastly different from the Dodges. The ZR1 and the new 500 are stressing the scales because they've added SERIOUS cooling capcity for hardcore extended track use. Strip off all the coolers and the MASSIVE brakes and rotors, put a "normal" sized wheel and tire on those cars (i.e. forget about turning and braking or track use) and all of a sudden those cars are back in the mid 3k lb range. The fact that Chevy and Ford are trying to mitigate those additional lbs via lightweight materials and Dodge isn't is part of my overall point. Ford and Chevy are developing NEW and innovative products. The dodge camp is just a bunch of 30 year old technology slapped together with a big, inefficient motor that advertises high HP. A part of me loves the unapologetic "muscle car" mentality, but Dodge takes that too far. I could get over the fact that they only make 840 CRANK HP on a 6.2 liter blown motor on RACE FUEL, but the rest of the car is a relic. I could get past the car weighing 2.5 tons IF it were a tradeoff for other performance issues (like coolers and massive brakes and the wheels to fit them, etc). I could also get past all that if Dodge sold the Demon/Hellcat at a much lower price point (aka, you're buying a big fat car that doesn't turn or brake well and has a 30 year old motor in it making pretty sad numbers....but it's dirt cheap). The fact that it's expensive just makes me laugh [/QUOTE]
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