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01 cobra vs 2000 camaro SS? who do you think would win
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<blockquote data-quote="Jroc" data-source="post: 12701815" data-attributes="member: 51847"><p>Well this thread has getting a little off topic, but I just hope that Ford uses the 5.0 in the next Cobra/GT500. IMO a 5.4 is more of a truck motor than the shorter 4.6/5.0 blocks, but obviously the 5.4 has a ton of power potential, but the only gasoline motor that I know of that has a longer stroke than a 4.165" stroke Modular is a old Vortec 8100(4.375" stroke I believe) that GM didn't seem to use in their 2500 trucks very long.</p><p></p><p>The 2013 GT500's 5.4 based 5.8 is one hell of a badass powerhouse motor, but a 5.0 based motor should be much more high RPM friendly, and the 5.8 is basically built like a big bore 5.4 Triton where the Coyote/Roadrunner motors are actually quite different than the older Modular design. Even the firing orders different their block just share about the same foot print. IDK about the aluminum blocks, but when talking iron blocks the 4.6 block is about 40 lbs lighter than a 5.4 block, and the iron 5.4 block has actually had a couple of revisions to beefen it up the last one I know of being in 03 but beefing it up added weight to the block. With a TVS 2300 a 5.0 will still make plenty of lowend power I feel sure.</p><p></p><p>IMO Ford hit a home run with the new 5.0's. Even N/A they mod well, and they love boost. They are light and compact as far as most 90* DOHC v8's displaceing 302 ci's go, etc. I'm just wanting to see what this motor can do with DI.</p><p></p><p>I tell you one motor that's fairly heavy, but that could be just one hell of a powerhouse of a motor if Ford decided to make it an all aluminum motor, and really try and tap into it's potential is the Boss 302. That motor isn't cursed with a small bore like a Modular, and it's 2v heads all quite a lot more efficent than old Modular 2v heads and they are just production truck heads. That motor can also easily be taken past 7 liters. With it's short(as far as larger modern OHC Ford motors go) stroke and big bore that could be made into like a modern day 427 motor similar to the old 427 BBF that was found in certain GT40's and Shelby Cobra's, and turn some high RPM's. Maybe if Ford were to ever decide to make another FGT or something similar they could use that motor and do something like that. I feel sure that that motor given that displacement could easily make 600+ HP in a factory reliable performance motor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jroc, post: 12701815, member: 51847"] Well this thread has getting a little off topic, but I just hope that Ford uses the 5.0 in the next Cobra/GT500. IMO a 5.4 is more of a truck motor than the shorter 4.6/5.0 blocks, but obviously the 5.4 has a ton of power potential, but the only gasoline motor that I know of that has a longer stroke than a 4.165" stroke Modular is a old Vortec 8100(4.375" stroke I believe) that GM didn't seem to use in their 2500 trucks very long. The 2013 GT500's 5.4 based 5.8 is one hell of a badass powerhouse motor, but a 5.0 based motor should be much more high RPM friendly, and the 5.8 is basically built like a big bore 5.4 Triton where the Coyote/Roadrunner motors are actually quite different than the older Modular design. Even the firing orders different their block just share about the same foot print. IDK about the aluminum blocks, but when talking iron blocks the 4.6 block is about 40 lbs lighter than a 5.4 block, and the iron 5.4 block has actually had a couple of revisions to beefen it up the last one I know of being in 03 but beefing it up added weight to the block. With a TVS 2300 a 5.0 will still make plenty of lowend power I feel sure. IMO Ford hit a home run with the new 5.0's. Even N/A they mod well, and they love boost. They are light and compact as far as most 90* DOHC v8's displaceing 302 ci's go, etc. I'm just wanting to see what this motor can do with DI. I tell you one motor that's fairly heavy, but that could be just one hell of a powerhouse of a motor if Ford decided to make it an all aluminum motor, and really try and tap into it's potential is the Boss 302. That motor isn't cursed with a small bore like a Modular, and it's 2v heads all quite a lot more efficent than old Modular 2v heads and they are just production truck heads. That motor can also easily be taken past 7 liters. With it's short(as far as larger modern OHC Ford motors go) stroke and big bore that could be made into like a modern day 427 motor similar to the old 427 BBF that was found in certain GT40's and Shelby Cobra's, and turn some high RPM's. Maybe if Ford were to ever decide to make another FGT or something similar they could use that motor and do something like that. I feel sure that that motor given that displacement could easily make 600+ HP in a factory reliable performance motor. [/QUOTE]
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