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Well in general he's not wrong... And let's not even get started on the OVERALL speed records. I mean, 3 second 1/4 mile ICE cars have been around a long ass time now. Electric is absolutely no where near that. Then you have NA 4 cylinder Honda's running 8s these days. Sure, these are heavily...

Edit: Garbage looks. Anything beyond that is irrelevant at that point. Similar to the Plaid.

I've seen non-car people react similarly in 400hp cars lol... it's all relative. Put John Force in a Plaid and watch it rock him to sleep like a lullaby. Cool cars. Not the same visceral experience as your typical modded/ICE car. I've been on MANY wooden roller coasters that were more "fun"...

Hmm Basic power:weight calculations are hard for some, lets see: Basic Bitch S197 GT500 - ~670whp @ 3750lbs (drag pack, full interior and normal simple weight reduction) C8 Z oh Suck - ~ 580whp @ 3600++lbs The C8Z is going to have a hard enough time coming around a C7Z on the interstate. Last...

Can't wait to blow one of these off the road in my near 15 year old GT500 with a $2k blower upgrade.

You're full of shit. First of all, do you have any idea how much of the country has literally NO emissions/smog, etc. checks AT ALL. On top of that, are you aware the EPA is currently in the approval stages of letting the last handful of remaining counties in TN with annual emissions testing, no...

While I agree the Pentagon is playing mind-games with the public and there's always a power struggle motive with them, the evidence released is quite far from a bird or any other normal explanation you can come up with...

Yes I am learning more. The big pivot for my recent post was SID showed where EZ Lynk was shown to be hit and the EPA did in fact mention basic tuning such as Spark advance. I have not seen that used before... So defeat devices were the primary cause, and that is stated in the 2020-2023...

RPM Act needs to pass. But it's not the answer everyone is hoping it is. It would keep the hardcore racecar guys going, and a small chunk of the aftermarket. But without street car modding, there's still going to be companies going out of business and layoffs all over the industry. So either...

Okay okay. So yes worst case scenario they can shut down tuning because of freaking spark advance capabilities... I get it, it's POSSIBLE. My comments though: all the tuners they've hit already are still doing the basic tuning just without deleting emissions. So, is the EPA going to go back to...

CARB EO spread is a big worry, just not really founded yet. But there's no evidence I've seen that says that's going to happen. And even if it does, the RPM Act has zero protection against it. It's a separate issue. RPM Act can pass and CARB EO shit can still spread for on road use vehicles. But...

They've technically had the ability to control this part of the industry for a long time now though. So there's really nothing to fight against as it's already law. Accepting the reality of the situation is entirely different than running from the problem. The biggest issue being highlighted in...

That's not part of their current "initiative". National Compliance Initiative: Stopping Aftermarket Defeat Devices for Vehicles and Engines | US EPA EPA announces FY 2020-2023 Priorities for Enforcement and Compliance Assurance | US EPA Defeat Device defined as: "defeat device, which is...

Also I'm not saying don't voice concerns for the cause. I'm saying don't be misguided in doing so, otherwise your validity goes out the window.

Stress is a killer. Unfounded stress is completely unnecessary. If I could sum it up, I would say, if you have a VIN'd car with literally none of the emissions left on it. Time to stress out. If you're the majority, which have basic mods on a street car with emissions on in the tune. This does...

The only thing going after LEGAL tuning, is CARB compliance, which is California, NY and some others. Yes they can check if you have an aftermarket tune. And yes also, there can be CARB compliant and legal aftermarket tunes. Again. VMP was hit years ago under this same premise, and yet they are...

I see you're in Nashville. Do you realize TN has asked the EPA if they can stop being mandated to do emissions checks in their specific counties that require it (around Nashville are the only areas)? TN is stating their pollution numbers are doing so well, they render the checks useless at this...

Yeah I agree that could happen. But I honestly don't think this is THAT big of a deal to them. I mean they've been going after companies now for 4-5 years. While it's a priority of theirs, it's not really going very quickly. And that fact they're going after manufacturers and installers tells me...

For sure more expensive and yeah I'm not aware of turbo carb compliance accept for OEM stuff. Also like you said only a few vendors/manufacturers so less competition. The fact that their "initiative" is labeled 2020-2023 gives SOME hope, in that they'll back off after that point... but who...

I can agree with that. My point about CARB compliant parts not becoming the standard still stands though. Because I seriously doubt the EPA will become more strict that California. Cali is the pinnacle of regulation... Even if this instance did occur, some companies would still go out of...

Back after taking a breather. I have some thoughts I know will go against the grain after more research. If a well thought out dialogue is too much for you to handle, and you're going to complain about wordiness, **** off before you even start. VMP as noted was hit with $60k in fines a few...

Damn I guess this is a public forum huh?

Sure, if that helps with your "fantasies".

It is all cool, because people have been doing exactly that in CA for the past 2 decades. Did you just wake from a coma?

That's exactly it, I only get on here to entertain myself. I'll eventually either get banned or just delete the account when the time comes. Everything is temporary.