ICE Ban 2025?

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I may have to move up my F-150 Hybrid purchase. If the D's retain power or the OEM's react out of self preservation, the USA date may DeFacto move up regardless of EPA ICE ban date.

"The European Commission’s proposed Euro 7 emission rules on cars, vans, trucks and buses would amount to “a ban through the back door” of internal combustion engines as of 2025, if implemented in their current form, industry has said, calling the proposal premature and “completely out of the question”.

"The ‘Euro 7‘ rules aim to ensure vehicles are clean over their entire lifetime, helping Europe to meet its European Green Deal emissions targets. The exact details of the measure are still under discussion, but they are already creating jitters at VDMA, a German trade association representing mechanical engineering companies."

Frans Timmermans, the EU’s climate policy chief, said decisions will be made in dialogue with the car industry, but stressed that his intention was not to avoid “difficult topics and difficult decisions”.

“You know that the car industry starts by saying it’s impossible and then, in the end, complies,” he told a press briefing last November. “But I’m not taking that as a template for my negotiations now because we have to listen to [the industry], we have to listen to their arguments,” he said.

Timmermans acknowledged the critical role of car manufacturing for the European economy but said the industry needs to now move towards electric vehicles and the use of hydrogen for heavier transport."
 

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Timmermans acknowledged the critical role of car manufacturing for the European economy but said the industry needs to now move towards electric vehicles and the use of hydrogen for heavier transport."

Banning ICE cars in 2025? As in new models? I don’t even see how that’s possible….

I would be very curious to see an increased development of H2 infrastructure to become more widely available fuel source for Trucks and Power plants. Siemens and GE I know have the technology ready to refit Gas turbines to burn H2.

Fuel storage and Delivery is the issue.
 

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Banning ICE cars in 2025? As in new models? I don’t even see how that’s possible….

I would be very curious to see an increased development of H2 infrastructure to become more widely available fuel source for Trucks and Power plants. Siemens and GE I know have the technology ready to refit Gas turbines to burn H2.

Fuel storage and Delivery is the issue.
You heard him in the piece: comply.
 

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It’s just not possible. The support isn’t there.


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As someone who works with the EPA

No they haven’t.

You just keep believing what the media is teling you

The mandates are the mandates. Look at the crazy shit automakers do chasing the last bit of nothing for emissions, which is exactly how the EU is moving up the ICE ban date on the sly. It will most certainly affect what is for sale in the USA.
 

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Y’all act like governments give a flying **** about feasibility, lol! The best part is, y’all post threads about government idiocracy then say it can’t happen in another thread.

Governments don’t give a **** if the grid can handle the increased electrical load. If it cannot, it is another control method. Y’all keep arguing under the assumption that politicians give a **** if you can survive or not. You are a roadblock or a Yay vote for more power.

But keep believing sensibility matters.


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Hmm, is the oil crisis manufactured because the powers that be know peak oil is coming? Few people probably know the real status of how much oil is still in the ground worldwide.

Could be BS, but the back of my head keeps telling me all events are linked and that there are motives behind everything. The war between Russia and Ukraine will be a little friendly game compared to what will go down if oil really does become scarce and the masses realize this.

I'm not talking about oil being scarce because of sanctions. I'm saying people will go nuts if oil becomes scarce because there's less of it left in the ground and sanctions on Russia, the climate change narrative or some other excuse can't be used anymore.
 

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Y’all act like governments give a flying **** about feasibility, lol! The best part is, y’all post threads about government idiocracy then say it can’t happen in another thread.

Governments don’t give a guck if the grid can handle the increased electrical load. If it cannot, it is another control method. Y’all keep arguing under the assumption that politicians give a **** if you can survive or not. You are a roadblock or a Yay vote for more power.

But keep believing sensibility matters.


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Governments will give a **** if chaos breaks out and people are getting "lynched" in the streets, including them. I am guessing a few have some bunkers they can run to. I guess those ones don't give a **** like the average person. But it will still affect them. Would it really be that great holed up in a bunker?
 

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Lol hard to comply when the grid can’t support 100% electrical vehicle ownership. These people are so brain dead.
Hence the push for people to work from home. What don't people who work from home do? Commute!
 

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