since they don't have dealers I don't know who or how he's had it set up and complained but they always just say it's within spec and aren't going to do anything.
Hell, with polarized glasses you can see the spray pattern in the paint.
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since they don't have dealers I don't know who or how he's had it set up and complained but they always just say it's within spec and aren't going to do anything.
Hell, with polarized glasses you can see the spray pattern in the paint.
So cool and so boring at the same time
Yoke steering, glass roof, 960 watt 22 speaker audio, 0-60 in 1.9, 1/4 [email protected] warranty, not paying 4.40 a gallon for premium, self driving, summons the car and to you that is boring? I would hate to see your browser history after 11pm if that is boring to you. lolololololololol
Lol on fuel costs. Newsflash- you pay China for the fuel up front with an adult power wheels. And when the fuel runs out you need to re up to China all at once. Way more than 4.40 a gallon !
Yup.
Tesla covers the battery for 8 years or 100K miles. If the battery fails and need to be replaced outside of warranty, from what I can find its gonna be less than $8K.
Are you saying that paying for fuel every day makes more sense than a battery replacement, that doesn't happen until after most people have sold the car after buying it new? Will you only spend $8K in fuel in the same time a Tesla covers 100K miles over 8 years (legit question, too early for math). How many people spend more than $8K to replace a crap engine that fails just outside of its 3 year/36K mile warranty period, only to have the same lack of performance with the new motor? Meanwhile the guy in the 75K mile tesla with the stock battery still under warranty is dragging you all over the place?
I don't know, doesn't seem as lopsided as you make it sound...
Depending on how much you pay for electricity, the cost per mile is cheaper to much cheaper with an electric. People who made up their minds a loooong time ago, and that have no capacity to process new information, continue to make up excuses or outright lies to make themselves feel better. Maybe they'd be better off with a horse?
While I'll admit some of the features are neat and it is undeniably fast, in a straight line. It's a one trick pony. and a super LOL at the comparisons to the 765 and other supercars. Walk into a room and there is a 765 and this golf cart on steriods. You can only have one, which one are you picking?
I'm curious as to what your thoughts are on how much of the current fleet of ICE cars on the road in the US can realistically be replaced by EV's in the next 5-10 years ? Percentage wise?
Nick said the Mach Pee battery costs 20k (Dealer Cost no R&R either) Not sure where you are getting 8k. Maybe post up a quote for this 8k battery when you get a chance. Also do electric motors last forever? Asking for a friend.
That is highly dependent on what is spec'd, but an good quality industrial duty electric motor can last 10's of thousands of hours. Way longer than any ICE could even dream of living.
Damn! Someone needs to tell Crown lift trucks this! My electric fork lift has motor problems just sitting! 10,000 hrs!?! Mine needs major service after a couple hundred hours.
Well, I'm not expert like all the hacks on here who apparently are experts on everything from voter fraud to vaccine development. But, I think there are two parts to the question.
The first is what percentage of cars could be EV's and still meet their daily duty of getting people to work and back- and some shopping or leisure driving on the weekend. I think the number there is far north of 50%. It might even be above 75%.
The second is the percentage that can be EV over the 5 to 10 years AND HAVE A GRID TO SUPPORT THEM. That number to me is less than 50% in 5 years, and almost certainly less than 75% in 10 years. But, America is still a free market for the most part. In a free market the power companies (who are in business to sell electricity) are going to invest and upgrade the grid so they can make more money. This is where you want greed. You want companies to invest in the grid, in order to capture the electricity market that is surely coming. There's a lot of economic activity that's going to be required to upgrade the grid. A lot of copper to be mined, a lot of wires to be run, transformers to be upgraded, etc. That's all going to be really good for the economy IMO. The biggest game changer appears to be grid scale storage, or gigantic battery arrays that will take a ton of solar power during the day and save it for when people charge at night and run their AC in the evening.
The list of things that will stand in the way of the above starts with producing enough batteries for all these cars. I think the automakers are thinking this through and will have it figured out by the time that they need them, probably in advance if they're learning anything from the current chip shortage.
We have electric motors at my facility that are north of 40K hrs and still running strong.
Now, we don't have any idea what the rated duty cycle of the motors put in these EV's, but we can guesstimate that even a mediocre electric motor will easily outlast any ICE. There is simply a lot less to go wrong with them.
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I have a problem with corrosion of the brushes from non use. Maybe its the climate Im in. Had two motor replacements with a lift that has 3200 hours. Out of warranty of coarse.
Thanks for answering. But if even it were possible to replace 50% of the cars in 10 years, not 5, here's some basic math on how that would look.
There are 3.25 trillion miles driven in the US last year.
If 50% of them are EV that's 1.75 trillion EV miles.
Figuring a generous average of 3 miles per kwh that's an increase of roughly 600 billion (Actually 583.3B) kwh that need to be produced.
Currently we produce 4 trillion kwh per year so that's an increase of roughly 15% of total output.
Disregarding the lack of infrastructure to support such a huge increase. Where are you getting the 600 billion kwh?
Total solar output is around 1.1 billion kwh
Fossil Fuels make up 66% of our output, but we all know Greta isn't going to stand for new fossil fuel generation plants.
Nuclear makes up 9% of the 4 trillion= 360 billion kwh. We could double our nuc plants but we know that isn't happening. And correct me if I'm wrong isn't the great state of California taking their nuc plant offline soon?
Hydroelectric is 9%, but I can't recall the last HE powerplant built.
So in reality, assuming there aren't any increases in demand, population (Think baby boom or mass immigration), or usage habits/regulations/forced blackouts, going EV in the near future isn't realistic.
Now assuming you overcome all that next you have to find the money to build new plants, rebuild the antiquated grid system. Curb mass increases in cost.
But before that you have to build the batteries. Now comes more math and "Yuge" environmental problems.
Well, after more digging, it seems nobody is really sure how much it costs. Thats a good sign though. Why? Because 10 year old Model S are still running on their original battery and theres no real consumer info on having to replace them. Anything that NEEDED to be replaced to this point has been done under warranty.
Either way, even if costs are $15K+ currently, thats sure to come down tremendously as technology catches up and production is improved, etc.
Again, who keep a car for over 10 years? Not that many people from what I see.
And, electric motors vs ICE...ummm, yeah. 100s of moving parts vs 2 or 3. You can do that math.
Sadly when a Tesla 'breaks down' or has a problem, its usually software related.
That's a daunting task by any measure. I think you're understating the amount of solar production in the US though. Last year the combined total of Solar electricity generated was over 100 TWH, and has been growing at over 25% year over year for the past twenty years.
The only reason I'm getting another EV is it saves me 45 minutes of time each day for my commute, which is going to recommence in July. If there was no time advantage to driving an EV, I'd be getting a Mach 1 or GT500 to D.D. But, 45 minutes a day works out to 15 hours a month and that's worth getting an EV to me. It's not like I'd be racing around for those 15 hours as I'm stuck in commute traffic. The fact that the Mach-E GT Performance Edition is as quick to 60 as the new GT500 is a bonus.
Waiting to see this in real life at a dragstrip
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