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We are almost 80 years in with this UFO stuff and in all that time we don't have one clear, legitimate photo of anything.
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When I hear the term "There are more stars in the universe than strands of sand on all the beaches on planet Earth" I gotta believe there are 100's of millions of other civilizations out there.

Its staggering how big the KNOWN Universe is never mind the unknown Universe's!

Bob Lazar has convinced me that we are not Alone.....
 

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We are almost 80 years in with this UFO stuff and in all that time we don't have one clear, legitimate photo of anything.

I go out every night with my binoculars, haven't seen shit.

When I hear the term "There are more stars in the universe than strands of sand on all the beaches on planet Earth" I gotta believe there are 100's of millions of other civilizations out there.

Its staggering how big the KNOWN Universe is never mind the unknown Universe's!

Bob Lazar has convinced me that we are not Alone.....

I think the official term is now "Cosmic Modesty". Considering the size of the universe, its thinking very highly of ourselves to think our planet is the only one with intelligent life. Even Hawking agreed.
 
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I believe that the latest numbers from the "Drake equation" are saying that there are likely >36 communicating, intelligent alien civilizations in the Milky way alone. That doesn't mean they have the means to visit us. Then one must remember only an area a bit over 125 light years around the planet has radio communications that have left the planet and those that would be picking them up would be tests from the late 1800's. (If they are listening to radio and assuming they are held to the same physics related constraints that we are).
If there was a galaxy ferring civilization I have a feeling that visiting the "sol" system is like reality tv for them. Much like how people can see the train wrecks long before they happen on shows like 90 day fiance, they see us and know that we are headed for disaster, and this next season will keep them on the edge of their seats.
 

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I guess I’m a pessimist, but I think we are the only life out there.

I’m not a fool though. I get that the universe is unfathomably massive. I just think we are the lucky winners of life.

Is it possible? Sure, something this large, anything is possible. I just don’t think there is.
 

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I guess I’m a pessimist, but I think we are the only life out there.

I’m not a fool though. I get that the universe is unfathomably massive. I just think we are the lucky winners of life.

Is it possible? Sure, something this large, anything is possible. I just don’t think there is.
Read into the "Great Filter" theory, that ties into the Fermi paradox, and measures civilizations on the Kardashev scale. It's the most pessimistic theory, and the one I lean on.
It essentially says that there is one critical step that most societies never develop to or they ultimately just destroy themselves before getting there, thus "filtering' out only a special few (if any) civilizations to continue on past that "filter" that removes most if not all of the other civilizations.
The question for us is where the "filter" is placed. It could be a step like making tools that is behind us, or it could be something still far ahead.
 

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It's probability based on the sheer mass of the universe as we know it, we find many planets orbiting other stars, and that's only in an unimaginably small area. They haven't visited due to distance. It takes light 4.2 years to get to the nearest star to ours.

There is still no concrete evidence of such a claim but you'd have to be extremely narrow minded to not believe it with an understanding of the great expanse.

I still believe the latest Navy releases are black projects until the gubbermint comes out and says they are aliens or whatever else. My guess is they won't, ever.


Understand the claims of the universe and physics are being challenged at this very moment. We don't even understand what dark matter is, and it makes up most of the universe. Even basic pillars of physics are being challenged, so why form any conclusion based on our primitive understanding? We literally just figured out gravity has waves not long ago, any conclusion or even strong opinion at this point about what is possible is like people saying 30 years ago that electric cars couldn't be performance-oriented. We're apex thinking, believing we understand when we actually don't just because we live in the now. People in 1940s thought their technology was amazing too, even the late 1800s. Turns out they barely knew anything. We're maybe a half step ahead of them. Maybe in 500 years we'll begin to understand some things.
 
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We are almost 80 years in with this UFO stuff and in all that time we don't have one clear, legitimate photo of anything.

Oh we do, but anytime its a clear people just fall back and punt. "Probably CGI." The issue is we will invent ways not to come to terms with this. I think radar and fighter pilot data of the same object is far more compelling than any clear pic anyway. We don't know what the hell we're even looking at anyway, it would be like villagers from the 1300s looking at the stealth bomber. Ok, it's a triangle. Not much you can say.
 

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I mean this sort of stuff is so common it gets overlooked.

Summary

Village cries wolf "UFOs are here all the time."
Scientists go and literally set up a 24 observatory and get all kinds of data but frail human subconsciously blanket is very strong. "It's fine, probably government craft. Everyone go back to work."


 

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Understand the claims of the universe and physics are being challenged at this very moment. We don't even understand what dark matter is, and it makes up most of the universe. Even basic pillars of physics are being challenged, so why form any conclusion based on our primitive understanding? We literally just figured out gravity has waves not long ago, any conclusion or even strong opinion at this point about what is possible is like people saying 30 years ago that electric cars couldn't be performance-oriented. We're apex thinking, believing we understand when we actually don't.
Well, we theorized gravity has waves over 100 years ago, only recently were we able to measure it via instruments.

Otherwise, I do agree, interdimensional visitors could be a thing
 

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Why did NASA conduct a $2 million study to look into how the world religions would be affected by the discovery of a superior race? That's a fact.

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Not for nothing but why did the government spend millions on studying the effects of cocaine on grasshoppers
and why lesbians get fat?

As to the existence of aliens I have 2 comments. 1. Some people want to believe so bad they'll see things that aren't there or real. This is common with most conspiracy's.

2. I hope aliens are real and come visit us and wipeout most of the population and use us for food.
 

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Well, we theorized gravity has waves over 100 years ago, only recently were we able to measure it via instruments.

Otherwise, I do agree, interdimensional visitors could be a thing

Now, that's something. Interdimensional is an opinion that many people have about these objects.
 

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Read into the "Great Filter" theory, that ties into the Fermi paradox, and measures civilizations on the Kardashev scale. It's the most pessimistic theory, and the one I lean on.
It essentially says that there is one critical step that most societies never develop to or they ultimately just destroy themselves before getting there, thus "filtering' out only a special few (if any) civilizations to continue on past that "filter" that removes most if not all of the other civilizations.
The question for us is where the "filter" is placed. It could be a step like making tools that is behind us, or it could be something still far ahead.

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The key difference between the past and now, is that we are a global society as much as we are a planet of nations and continents. Our ability to communicate across boarders and globally is much more advance than it ever has been. The likelihood of boots on the ground war and total annihilation is actually reduced.

I don't think technology will be our hinderance, it will be what societies existing or not created yet that allow us to move forward pass the next "filter".
 

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Not for nothing but why did the government spend millions on studying the effects of cocaine on grasshoppers
and why lesbians get fat?

As to the existence of aliens I have 2 comments. 1. Some people want to believe so bad they'll see things that aren't there or real. This is common with most conspiracy's.

2. I hope aliens are real and come visit us and wipeout most of the population and use us for food.

Yeah, I've seen some stupid studies, but very few unrelated studies from NASA.

There are people many people want to believe and are delusional, but equally, people that don't want to, and they hide it under the veil of "skepticism." A good balance of skepticism is great, but I think many people struggle with the idea of superior beings being a thing.

The difference now is science is taking this seriously.
 

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I believe that the latest numbers from the "Drake equation" are saying that there are likely >36 communicating, intelligent alien civilizations in the Milky way alone. That doesn't mean they have the means to visit us. Then one must remember only an area a bit over 125 light years around the planet has radio communications that have left the planet and those that would be picking them up would be tests from the late 1800's. (If they are listening to radio and assuming they are held to the same physics related constraints that we are).
If there was a galaxy ferring civilization I have a feeling that visiting the "sol" system is like reality tv for them. Much like how people can see the train wrecks long before they happen on shows like 90 day fiance, they see us and know that we are headed for disaster, and this next season will keep them on the edge of their seats.


And what would an alien civilization visiting us look like? How would we know? How would chimps know they're being recorded in the wild by scientists from a distance?

I think we watch so much scifi that we have certain expectations of what a "visitation" would look like. When it fact it could be happening now and people are literally dismissing it because these sightings don't make much sense. It would be like a chimp seeing a laptop light in the distant forest. He's seen light before, maybe even fire, but this one is slightly different. So, after a while, he can't figure it out and he continues taking a shit. "Probably nothing." When in fact a superior species is observing him from a mile away. In the same way, we've seen flying aircraft and sci-fi movies so we try and make sense of these strange objects, when in fact it would never make sense to us. "Probably secret tech."
 

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