Yup.
Theory was we would sort the material and send it back to China on all those empty container ships.
Reality is, lots of those Chinese companies then just took the stuff and dumped it in the ocean or burned it.
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Theory was we would sort the material and send it back to China on all those empty container ships.
Reality is, lots of those Chinese companies then just took the stuff and dumped it in the ocean or burned it.
What I would like to know is how will residents of major cities like Boston, NY, LA, etc that only have on street parking in front of their Brownstown or apartment building charge their cars overnight ?
how will campgrounds, hotels, resorts, country clubs, etc charge vehicles? How will municipal vehicles such as snow plows, ambulances, police cars , DPW, etc be charged ?
“911 sorry as soon as the ambulance is charged up we’ll be right there. The last shift forgot to plug it in”
how will campgrounds, hotels, resorts, country clubs, etc charge vehicles? How will municipal vehicles such as snow plows, ambulances, police cars , DPW, etc be charged ?
“911 sorry as soon as the ambulance is charged up we’ll be right there. The last shift forgot to plug it in”
Waiting for AOC to design the 1st solar / wind powered commercial jets & cargo ships..
The Magic of Socialism!
First off. They (Government, Ruling Elite) don't want you to own a car. They want you crammed into cities, living in Pods you rent at your work site and eating soy based food. (Don't believe me, check out The Great Reset).
Second, those very problems are opportunities to the authoritarian and wealthy. New mandates and government spending, extensive rezoning, eminent domain, leasing programs, reconstruction, and government managed transportation expansion.
Propaganda :
Imagine, never having to worry about parking or car maintenance again. Not having to deal with insurance and loans. With Government Motors, you simply use your app to ride our new buss and train system for your day to day travel or maybe give our electric scooters a try. When you really need private transportation, just call a self driving car from our local storage center and it arrive to take you where you need to go!
All this for one low monthly fee that is also supplemented by someone else's tax dollars!
AOC : Just take an Uber
Your questions contain way too much common sense for this endeavor.
Common sense questions aren't allowed here & are probably racist too.
Just go with the flow. Joe's got this all figured out.
For Washington, they made sure they put in the rules it will not apply to heavy duty vehicles, or emergency vehicles. Its only good for us peasants.
Dude will be buying F650s for daily drivers.
So if North Carolina is apart of this, does the mean nascar will be getting back to it’s outlaw roots? But instead of running moonshine, their just running illegal gas engines lol.
Or are they caving and racing battery RC?
Or are they caving and racing battery RC?
Wait a second, I've seen this before...
Bruh... NASCAR's future is as an E sport.
The sponsors loved it. makes it so much cheaper, no actual cost for cars , development.. none of that.
Brings in the younger crowd, which they desperately need.
Species go extinct all the time. More research needs to be done on the impact that tidal power will have on the environment. There are a few advantages and disadvantages. It is billed as compact though so the impact would not be over a large area.
As much as I hate seeing ICE go the way of the dinosaurs the reality is oil is a finite resource. And our consumption is not slowing down. So when do you start phasing dependence on it out? When we've reached Peak Oil and production declines? No, you phase it out decades in advance so there is enough time for alternative sources of energy production to be designed, built and implimented.
Tidal energy advantages and disadvantages: key points to consider
Advantages of tidal energy: clean and compact
Tidal power is a known green energy source, at least in terms of emitting zero greenhouse gases. It also doesn’t take up that much space. The largest tidal project in the world is the Sihwa Lake Tidal Power Station in South Korea, with an installed capacity of 254MW. The project, established in 2011, was easily added to a 12.5km-long seawall built in 1994 to protect the coast against flooding and to support agricultural irrigation.
Compare this to some of the largest wind farms, such as the Roscoe wind farm in Texas, US, which takes up 400km2 of farmland, or the 202.3km2 Fowler Ridge wind project in Indiana.
Even solar farms are usually bigger, such as the Tengger Desert Solar Park in China that covers an area of 43km2 and the Bhadla Industrial Solar Park that is spread across 45km2 of land in Rajasthan, India.
Advantages of tidal energy: continuous, predictable energy
Another benefit of tidal power is that it is predictable. The gravitational forces of celestial bodies are not going to stop anytime soon. Furthermore, as high and low tide is cyclical, it is far easier for engineers to design efficient systems, than say, predicting when the wind will blow or when the sun will shine.
In June this year, Bloomberg reported that the UK went nine days without generating almost any wind power. From 26 May to 3 June, power generated from UK wind farms fell from more than 6,000MW to less than 500MW. In contrast, scientists already know the volume of water and the level of power the tidal equipment will likely generate before construction.
Tidal power is also relatively prosperous at low speeds, in contrast to wind power. Water has one thousand times higher density than air and tidal turbines can generate electricity at speeds as low as 1m/s, or 2.2mph. In contrast, most wind turbines begin generating electricity at 3m/s-4m/s, or 7mph-9mph.
Moreover, technological advances in the industry will only drive cheaper and more sustainable tidal power solutions.
“Historically, wave energy converters have been costly and large compared to their energy output. But we shouldn’t let that define the future of the tidal industry. Around 10%-20% of global electricity demand could be met by wave power,” says Diego Pavia, chief executive officer at InnoEnergy.
“It’s a very predictable energy source and typically offsets the intermittency of solar and wind – balancing the grid with a low levelised cost of energy. One of our assets, CorPower, is challenging how the industry thinks about wave energy by using principles of the human heart. Through its wave energy converter, the company is able to deliver five times higher wave energy absorption than other technologies. And that’s why the power of wave energy should not be overlooked.”
Advantages of tidal energy: longevity of equipment
Tidal power plants can last much longer than wind or solar farms, at around four times the longevity. Tidal barrages are long concrete structures usually built across river estuaries. The barrages have tunnels along them containing turbines, which are turned when water on one side flows through the barrage to the other side. These dam-like structures are said to have a lifespan of around 100 years. The La Rance in France, for example, has been operational since 1966 and continues to generate significant amounts of electricity each year.
Wind turbines and solar panels generally come with a warranty of 20 to 25 years, and while some solar cells have reached the 40-year mark, they typically degenerate at a pace of 0.5% efficiency per year.
The longer lifespan of tidal power makes it much more cost-competitive in the long run. Even nuclear power plants do not last this long. For example, the new Hinckley Point C nuclear plant planned to be built in Somerset, UK, is estimated to provide power for around 60 years, once completed, according to a BBC report.
Disadvantages of tidal energy: lack of research
While the true effects of tidal barrages and turbines on the marine environment have not been fully explored, there has been some research into how barrages manipulate ocean levels and can have similar negative effects as hydroelectric power.
A 2010 report commissioned by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association and titled ‘Environmental Effects of Tidal Energy Development’ identified several environmental effects, including the “alteration of currents and waves”, the “emission of electro-magnetic fields” (EMFs) and its effects on marine life, and the “toxicity of paints, lubricants and anti-fouling coatings” used in the manufacturing of equipment.
The Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) studied the effect of a tidal turbine at Strangford Lough off the coast of Northern Ireland. The PNNL’s Marine Sciences Lab was particularly interested in how the tidal turbine affected the local harbour seals, grey seals, and harbour porpoises that inhabit the area. The Atlantis-manufactured turbine studied was able to turn off when larger mammals approached.
However, there is still a need for further research.
“The ocean’s natural ebb and flow can be an abundant, constant energy source. But before we can place power devices in the water, we need to know how they might impact the marine environment,” said PNNL oceanographer Andrea Copping in a research paper.
“We have to prove beforehand that there is no impact, and we cannot. We have no concrete proof, just theories based on existing knowledge and computer modelling.”
Disadvantages of tidal energy: the impact of EMF emissions
Electro-magnetic emissions might also disrupt the sensitive marine life. Fellow PNNL marine ecologist Jeff Ward said the organisation was observing how EMFs damage the ability of juvenile Coho salmon to recognise and evade predators, or the negative impact on Dungeness crabs to detect odours through their antennules. They are also observing whether sea life is attracted or repelled by EMFs in general.
Ward said at the Oceans 2010 conference: “We really don’t know if the animals will be affected or not. There’s surprisingly little comprehensive research to say for sure.”
While there has not been much research into the effects of EMFs, a European Commission study in 2015 found that EMFs could also have an impact on the migratory routes of sea life in the area.
Particular species that are susceptible to EMFs are sharks, skates, rays, crustaceans, whales, dolphins, bony fish, and marine turtles. Many of these animals use natural magnetic fields to navigate their environment.
The most conclusive study, according to the European Commission’s ‘Environmental impacts of noise, vibrations and electromagnetic emissions from marine renewable energy’, was an observation of migration in eels. The study found that the EMF caused the eels to divert from their instinctual migratory route, but “the individuals were not diverted too long and resumed their original trajectory”.
Another experiment found that benthic elasmobranchs – which includes sharks, rays and skates – were attracted to a source of EMF emitted from a subsea umbilical. Again, there was no conclusive evidence of any cumulative, detrimental effects.
Disadvantages of tidal energy: high construction costs
There’s no avoiding the fact that tidal power holds one of the heaviest up-front price tags. The proposed Swansea Bay Tidal Lagoon project in Wales, UK, is priced at £1.3bn ($1.67bn). The aforementioned Sihwa Lake Tidal Power Station cost $560m, and the La Rance cost 620 million francs back in 1966. Using an online conversion and inflation calculator, this is equal to roughly $940m in 2018.
In comparison, The Tengger Desert Solar Park cost around $530m for a total installed capacity of 850MW, making it more cost-efficient than Sihwa Lake, at 254MW total capacity. Likewise, the Roscoe Wind Farm cost around $1bn for an output of 781MW, compared to the Swansea Bay tidal project that is expected to generate around 320MW in total.
While long-term generation costs are relatively good compared to other renewable energy systems, the initial construction cost makes investing in tidal energy a particularly risky venture.
Firstly, installing a tidal system is technologically challenging. Manufacturers are competing against the moving ocean, and the equipment and technical knowledge needed to successfully construct the system is typically very expensive, especially compared to a wind or solar farm.
The second expense relates to the point made in the previous section. Companies managing a tidal power system need to conduct continuous analysis into the effect it has on the specific environment in which they are operating. This requires research and assessment from environmentalists, marine biologists, and geographical experts to mitigate the destruction of sensitive ecosystems, which can be costly.
However, Oregon State University associate professor of energy systems Ted Brekken remains certain that technological progression will help to mitigate some of these costs, telling Yale Environment 360: “The technology has kept moving forward, which is good news. But the big issue is to get the cost down. Right now, there is the reality of surviving while we get there.
“At some point, all the easy, cheap installations for wind and solar will be done. And then it’s ocean energy that’s next in line.”
So, 12 states get to tell the other 38 what they can and cannot do. Sounds about par for the course for demonrats. I hate the direction of this country, I really do. Thanks demonrats for making life so amazing. Just think, Biden has barely been in office 2 months.
So in 2035, dealerships will need bigger parking lots for all the EV's the public isn't buying ??
2034 could be a record sales year for the big 3 !!
2034 could be a record sales year for the big 3 !!
What's a "high-road" job?
I play this game with all the WOKE teeny boppers. And you should see the look on their faces when I take almost everything they have away from them. Then tell them point blank everything I took has fossil fuels in their make up from the plastics to the very electronics, all gone but you wanted this so enjoy. Doesn't take them long to change their tune.
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