John Lund Jr talks about the future of tuning.

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I did watch this. Time to draw a line in the sand. The "government", isn't some esoteric idea. It is run by fellow citizens. We can take it back. Time to call them out, and harass them. You are either with us, or against us. Don't let bureaucrats ruin your life!

Last time I checked, John "****ing Anvil Face" Kerry's, private jet, didn't have catalytic converters.
 

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Yes...very sad. And because our hobby is actually pretty small(compared to others)...its easy to get stepped on and have no voice.

Its unfortunate....but until all those rollin' coal video's showed up on social media and the tree huggers started screaming...The EPA didn't seem to care previously because the % of tuned vehicles is so small.

But now that there is a national awareness, especially in a community of earth first screamers...the EPA has to do something, or look poorly in the media. Even if the results don't actually have an impact.
 
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Did anyone else see this before?

ENFORCEMENT AND INSPECTION, SPECIAL TOPICS IN ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT
EPA Issues Enforcement Alert on Emissions Tampering
By Lisa Whitley Coleman Mar 2, 2021 Enforcement and Inspection, Special Topics in Environmental Management
In December 2020, the EPA issued an Enforcement Alert regarding aftermarket defeat devices that “bypass or render inoperative required emissions control systems, resulting in significant increases in harmful air emissions” from motor vehicles and nonroad equipment.

The EPA resolved more than 70 cases in the past 5 years involving prohibitions against tampering under Section 203(a)(3) of the Clean Air Act (CAA) and 40 CFR 1068.101(b).

The Agency “remains concerned that regulated entities are continuing to ignore” these prohibitions.

Specifically, the rules state that “emissions-related parts and elements of design must not be changed, including any part, device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle, non-road equipment, motor vehicle engine, or non-road engine by an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) for the specific purpose of controlling emissions.”

The Agency’s rules cover a comprehensive list of elements of design, devices, and parts, including:

  • The onboard diagnostic system (OBD);
  • Diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs);
  • Sensors for oxygen, oxides of nitrogen (NOx), ammonia, particulate matter (PM), urea quality, and exhaust gas temperature;
  • Diesel particulate filters (DPFs) and their sensors;
  • Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) systems;
  • Diesel oxidation catalysts (DOCs);
  • Selective catalytic reduction (SCR) systems;
  • NOx adsorber catalyst (NAC) systems;
  • Engine calibrations that affect engine combustion (e.g., fuel injection or ignition timing, injection pattern, fuel injection mass for each injection event, fuel injection pressure, EGR flowrate, mass air flowrate, and EGR cooler bypassing); and
  • Any other part, device, or element of design installed on certified vehicles or engines in compliance with Title II of the CAA and its regulations, including parts and specifications included in the manufacturer’s tested prototype.
Section 203(a)(3) of the CAA is specific. Part B of this section clearly states it is a violation:

“ … for any person to manufacture or sell, or offer to sell, or install, any part or component (i.e., ‘defeat device’) intended for use with, or as part of, any motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine, where a principal effect of the part or component is to bypass, defeat, or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under Title II of the Clean Air Act, and where the person knows or should know that such part or component is being offered for sale or installed for such use or put to such use.”

Part A of the 203(a)(3) statute further cements the violation, stating the prohibition against any person who knowingly removes or renders “inoperative (i.e., ‘tampering’) any such emissions control device or element of design.”

‘Reasonable Basis’ Is a Defense
The EPA obviously focuses its enforcement efforts on devices that increase emissions. So, any person “who has a reasonable basis for knowing that use of such part will not adversely affect emissions performance” and who is involved in the manufacture, sale, or installation of aftermarket parts can claim the “reasonable basis” defense, provided he or she can show the device or modification will have no adverse impact on emissions in each of the following circumstances:

  • The aftermarket part is identical in design and function to the part or component it replaced.
  • The vehicle or engine, as modified, meets emissions standards when tested on the same tests the OEM used to certify the vehicle with the EPA.
  • The California Air Resources Board (CARB) has issued an Executive Order (EO) that covers the same device or part on the same model vehicle on which the device or part was installed.
Costly Violations for Emissions Tampering
The price tag for violations is steep—the maximum civil penalty is “$4,819 per defeat device manufactured, sold, or installed, or per vehicle tampered. A dealer or vehicle manufacturer who tampers with a vehicle may be subject to significantly higher civil penalties.”

For an example of the amount of penalties that can be applied in these types of cases, see the EPA information sheet on its settlement with Performance Diesel, Inc.

Companies whose operations involve these types of emissions-related devices are also advised to keep in mind that many states have additional regulations regarding these devices.

A previous defense was that the aftermarket defeat devices were produced for “competition only” use. The Agency had a practice of not enforcing these regulations against vehicles used solely for competition events. However, the EPA’s statistics show “that hundreds of thousands of diesel pickup trucks have had their emissions controls completely removed, and most or all the aftermarket defeat devices used to tamper these trucks were sold under the claim of ‘competition only.’ The sheer volume of aftermarket defeat devices belies the assertion that they are only for competition motorsports.”

The EPA has actively and strictly enforced actions against companies claiming “competition only” use. In the EPA’s action against Punch It Performance and Tuning, the company was required to stop manufacture and sale, turn over its intellectual property, and pay civil penalties to the tune of $850,000. That company further compounded its problems by transferring “real estate and monetary assets to one or more of the individual defendants in their personal capacities,” resulting in the EPA seeking further enforcement under the Federal Debt Collection Procedures Act.
 

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None of this is new. Didn’t happen in the past 3 months. It’s been going on for years. Doesn’t matter who is in the White House. Just saying.
True...although it seems like if the RPM act was going to get passed, it would have the highest chance of success in the previous four years...

I wonder if people with big social media presence could have an impact?
There needs to be a way to get the message out and just as critically, give people an easy way to act.
 

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None of this is new. Didn’t happen in the past 3 months. It’s been going on for years. Doesn’t matter who is in the White House. Just saying.
It's just very hypocritical like everything else they do, I mean if we're all about clean air these days
 

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Living in Ri with emission test every 2 years is not so much of a pita because my terminator has no cats, no egr, rear o2's and evap shut off.. So what I need to do to get it to pass is fine..

Working at a ford dealer in Mass that does yearly emission inspections... I'd have to say modifying new cars, diesels and even just tint with the inspection stickers in the last 2 years is a complete shit show now... 4 cameras in inspection bays, manual picture of certain areas of vehicles uploaded to state.. Tuned vehicles get automatic failure and get sent directly to the Mac center with no warning to us until the vehicle is plugged into obd2..

I feel bad because I'm an enthusiast and get why we do this stuff..

Trump 2024 we can only pray
 

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None of this is new. Didn’t happen in the past 3 months. It’s been going on for years. Doesn’t matter who is in the White House. Just saying.
Exactly

The writing has been on the wall for years already, and I fear we're too late. Lots of companies have been hammered and most shut down the last several years alone. The enforcement initiative is for 2020-2023 so they are hitting it hard and fast now.
 

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Its been going on for a very long time. I thought the nail in the coffin was last year when the "diesel brothers" got smacked with a $850k lawsuit for selling trucks that roll coal.
 
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Exactly

The writing has been on the wall for years already, and I fear we're too late. Lots of companies have been hammered and most shut down the last several years alone. The enforcement initiative is for 2020-2023 so they are hitting it hard and fast now.
This!

Yep, we all saw/hear the rumblings a decade ago. Lobbying did little or nothing. Now, with a new commitment to go Green, restrictions are being, and will continue to be, ramped up. Companies will shut down due to government restrictions/laws (it all started in CA) as they're hamstringed on what they can manufacture and sell. Or they will shift their development and products to other automotive mods/parts/equipment that doesn't carry a potential liability resulting in heavy fines. @weatherman's Post #5 above is an eye-opener.

Enjoy what you have for the time being. Enjoy the mods and increased engine performance while it's here. At some point into the future, baring a miracle, most of it will be but a shadow of what it is today. JMO, as I watch it all unfold.
 

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Well what are you all going to do about it?

Complain on forums, someone will say it's against the constitution, muh rights, muh freedom and will do nothing in reality. There's not much to do really, though, except move to states who don't test emissions to extend the inevitable . Thanks to dumbasses taking video of them rolling coal on unsuspecting people and then uploading it started this shitshow.

Trump doesn't give two ****s about car emissions.
 

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A law should be enacted protecting the right of the individual to practice the long and cherished American tradition of hot-rodding ones car.
That's clearly part of the same American Tradition or Racism, Toxic Masculinity, abuse and oppression of women, minorities, people of colors and members of trans gay queer community.

Hot Rodding is a hobby done by thieving racist old white men who want to destroy the environment.
 

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It's comforting to know that the government is spending a bunch of time and money on something like going after the aftermarket car/tuning industry that causes 0.000000000000000001% of the problem. What a joke.
 

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It's comforting to know that the government is spending a bunch of time and money on something like going after the aftermarket car/tuning industry that causes 0.000000000000000001% of the problem. What a joke.

Cheapest way of showing that they care though. People can see the crackdown as coal rollers get "taken off" the street.

You can't stop ships from importing/exporting. Cruises got lobbyist too.

China/India get a pass cause they pay off the right people.
 

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