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another warrant smfh. He is such a snowflake ******. How do NJ residents put someone like that in office?

Their anti-Police tactics will get good people killed in the name of BLM.
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.......................Biden got elected didn't he ?
 

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How does hiring and workers’ compensation work in these legal marijuana states? Can an employer choose to not hire you if you use? If you’re injured on the job can you be denied compensation?


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Can a physician use it prior to operating on you? Can a pilot use it prior to flight? Can a policeman use it? A judge that is rendering a legal decision? An NCAA or professional athlete? A teacher if off school grounds? An operator at a nuke plant?
 

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I dont see the need to be able to ask to search someone vehicle.

I also dont see the need ask anyone to exit a vehicle on a MV stop.
Obviously you have no idea about crime suppression and how criminals utilize motor vehicles to commit crimes and transport criminal instruments.
If a crime has not been committed there is no reason to for either of these. Alot of times those 2 things have violated people's right. That is why more more departments are removing them, along with alot officer/departments misuse of those 2 situations.
Sometimes crimes are not blatantly obvious, and sometimes proactive policing prevents and solves crime.
You are entitled to your opinion, however you are obviously not well informed on why police use tactics they use. It is a shame there are so many like you who have an ignorance about the depth our society has fallen, until you yourself become a victim.
 

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The Constitution which all of us love on this site is a very sharp 2 edged sword. We love our Police and want them to have the power to keep us safe. We also love our Freedom and the protections The Constitution provides. All that said, very few people understand how diametrically opposed those 2 ideas are:

-Empowered police forces
-Freedom

The relationship between those 2 ideas needs to be carefully understood. It is my opinion that many (not all, but many) police officers don't give 2 shits about a "possible criminal's" rights. Notice i didnt say criminal, but a possible criminal.

In this society we ALL--Yes even the perceived "bad guys" should be able to enjoy the presumption of innocence.

Every true "patriot" should share the Founders' skepticism of government control and power. If you are LEO and are a "big 2A guy, rah rah rah" but have no idea what the 4th and 6th amendments are or represent, you have no business being a cop.

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Can a physician use it prior to operating on you? Can a pilot use it prior to flight? Can a policeman use it? A judge that is rendering a legal decision? An NCAA or professional athlete? A teacher if off school grounds? An operator at a nuke plant?
I don't understand what you are getting at here. Are you really asking if these people can do their jobs high? I'm going out on a limb here and going to say that the majority of pro-recreational use people understand that impairment is impairment and a job that requires someone to be of sound mind can't be high while executing their job duties. But on their off time, toke up.
 

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The problem is we dont have a quick way to test or even a standard or a measure by which to say "xx ng/ml amount of MJ in your system makes you impaired" like we do for alcohol as an example.

You want to legalize it.. fine by me. But there better be a quick and easy way to accurately measure how high someone is and we should know at what point they become impaired. We have an idea now, but im not sold 100%.

Then you have the problem of THC crossing the blood/brain barrier slower than alcholol, so you can have a THC level in your blood that is dropping but you are actually feeling higher than you were 5 min ago. It's easy to see why this would be a problem while testing someone who appears impaired.

The whole thing needs more work and research before making it all legal IMO.
 

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The problem is we dont have a quick way to test or even a standard or a measure by which to say "xx ng/ml amount of MJ in your system makes you impaired" like we do for alcohol as an example.

You want to legalize it.. fine by me. But there better be a quick and easy way to accurately measure how high someone is and we should know at what point they become impaired. We have an idea now, but im not sold 100%.

Then you have the problem of THC crossing the blood/brain barrier slower than alcholol, so you can have a THC level in your blood that is dropping but you are actually feeling higher than you were 5 min ago. It's easy to see why this would be a problem while testing someone who appears impaired.

The whole thing needs more work and research before making it all legal IMO.
I disagree with your assertion that we cannot have freedom because of law breakers.
 

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When it comes to guns and drugs as long as they are not used in the act of committing crimes...

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Obviously you have no idea about crime suppression and how criminals utilize motor vehicles to commit crimes and transport criminal instruments.

Sometimes crimes are not blatantly obvious, and sometimes proactive policing prevents and solves crime.
You are entitled to your opinion, however you are obviously not well informed on why police use tactics they use. It is a shame there are so many like you who have an ignorance about the depth our society has fallen, until you yourself become a victim.

Unfortunately many times in situations police have planted drugs, guns, ect in order to get a bust. Had these types of things not happened. Departments would not be changing policies, judges would not removing right to ask citizens to search, ect.

These things actually happen every single day. Unfortunately those in law enforcement are not allowed to bust out the bad apples in fear of punishment.

Its funny everyones view comes to the same exact answer. "You are not informed" truth be told every single geographic location is different there fore not all things apply equally.
 

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The Constitution which all of us love on this site is a very sharp 2 edged sword. We love our Police and want them to have the power to keep us safe. We also love our Freedom and the protections The Constitution provides. All that said, very few people understand how diametrically opposed those 2 ideas are:

-Empowered police forces
-Freedom

The relationship between those 2 ideas needs to be carefully understood. It is my opinion that many (not all, but many) police officers don't give 2 shits about a "possible criminal's" rights. Notice i didnt say criminal, but a possible criminal.

In this society we ALL--Yes even the perceived "bad guys" should be able to enjoy the presumption of innocence.

Every true "patriot" should share the Founders' skepticism of government control and power. If you are LEO and are a "big 2A guy, rah rah rah" but have no idea what the 4th and 6th amendments are or represent, you have no business being a cop.

Antonin Scalia, Defender of the Rights of the Accused

How Did Antonin Scalia Shape American Policing?

Unfortunately many do not understand, rather they do what they are told and not what oath they took. Not all cops are bad, just wish the good ones would out that bad ones.
 

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Saddest thing about it is that property and school taxes will still be going up as that windbag governor Murphy says were broke... Im just saying...
 

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You lack reading comprehension or a basic understanding of the difference between God-given freedoms and earned privileges then.

Scroll up and give it another shot.
Are you really trying to argue that I do not have a right to get intoxicated? Your whole post was based on being able to catch law breakers to make it legal. How is my reading comprehension wrong here?
 

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I don't understand what you are getting at here. Are you really asking if these people can do their jobs high? I'm going out on a limb here and going to say that the majority of pro-recreational use people understand that impairment is impairment....
Uh, yes, that's pretty much what I was asking. If you don't see the legal or safety ramifications in those cases, and plenty more, you're missing a major crux. This is a huge legal cluster**** that will endanger a lot people. But if you are fine with your brain surgeon "toking up on his own time" and you trust their judgement to not partake when they shouldn't, that's great. Just don't try to sue when things don't go as planned. THAT is the issue.
 

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Unfortunately many times in situations police have planted drugs, guns, ect in order to get a bust.
Many times huh? Please elaborate, provide first hand accounts or verified examples. Your claims are ignorant and false, just so you know
 

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Pretty sad that you are ignorant to what goes on.
Im not sure if you choose to be blind or just lie about what does happen. No one said you do those things.

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lol one bs example. You said “many times” cops plant evidence for a bust. Please explain how you have acquired this knowledge and how you know it really happens. And don’t do the, my cousins knows a guy bullshit.
And you are going to insinuate that I would lie???? You just lost all respect from me, and trust me, there wasn’t much there to begin with.
You have made some very bold claims and now you need to support them. Go ahead and hit all your regular left wing agenda google sites and find some examples, I’ll wait.
 

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Are you really trying to argue that I do not have a right to get intoxicated? Your whole post was based on being able to catch law breakers to make it legal. How is my reading comprehension wrong here?

Your right to be intoxicated ends the second your intoxication threatens someone elses Freedom. Kind of like a stoned Dr. performing brain surgery.


Looks like i was right on the reading comp part (or lack thereof).
 

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lol one bs example. You said “many times” cops plant evidence for a bust. Please explain how you have acquired this knowledge and how you know it really happens. And don’t do the, my cousins knows a guy bullshit.
And you are going to insinuate that I would lie???? You just lost all respect from, and trust me, there wasn’t much there to begin with.
You have made some very books claims and now you need to support them. Go ahead and hit all your regular left wing agenda google sites and find some examples, I’ll wait.

I made a claim and provided and example like you asked. But its typical for one to refuse to see the truth when then defend one side and not the oath they took.
 

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