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What planet are you on? No one addressing the recharge problem?

Shell announced that they're going to install 500,000 charging stations in the next four years. That's over 340 PER DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY between now and then, if they level load the endeavor and install them 7 days a week. That is just from one company.
That does help, but I still don't need to take a 40 minute shit every 2 hours of driving. I think that is what he was referencing.
 

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Friend of mine, last winter his father bought a Tesla model X while in Florida, and come April, wanted it back here in Massachusetts. Father flew home, son flew down, and drove it back.

in a conventional ICE vehicle he can make it straight thru in 26 hours.

the Tesla, he had to stop 16 times on the way home to charge it, and each charging station was off the Highway in a shopping center, office park, etc, so almost 45-60 minutes per stop.
Trip took him 42 hours and 2 separate nights in a hotel.

he told his dad next year if he wanted it back down in Florida for the winter he could have it shipped, he would never drive it down or back again.

Please keep sharing your story, EV's are more of a hindrance on long endeavors then most people realize. Thanks
What planet are you on? No one addressing the recharge problem?

Shell announced that they're going to install 500,000 charging stations in the next four years. That's over 340 PER DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY between now and then, if they level load the endeavor and install them 7 days a week. That is just from one company.

Dave's explanation describes the real problem. Who has time to hop skip and jump to every charging station, no matter how many there are. The range is not efficient enough.
 

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That does help, but I still don't need to take a 40 minute shit every 2 hours of driving. I think that is what he was referencing.

I think that's a separate issued all together.

By the time they stop selling gas powered cars, the range on electrics will be significantly longer than today. There are limits for sure. The amount of available amps on one's breaker panel will be a limiting factor. I'm going to install a Clipper Creek American made charger that takes an 80 amp breaker, delivering sustained 64 amps to a car- even though my Mach-E will only be able to accept 48 amps, to get some future proofing.

The 64 amps that the new charger will deliver gives about 40 miles of range per hour of charging. Math tells us to get to say 500 miles of range, that would be 11.5 hours of charging at that level. Frankly, I don't want to ever drive more than 500 in a single day, which is right about the distance from my house to Las Vegas.

But the rub is the loss of range due to cold weather. Even though it's about 63* outside where I live right now, I understand some areas of the country are a little colder. If you lose 40% of your range due to temp, then add a bunch of hours to that charge time.

DC Fast Charging is a game changer, but there are a lot of limitations on how much the battery will accept at that level of power input.

It really will boil down to improving the power grid, and using utility scale batteries to level the load. There's an enormous market there, and companies will jump in to take advantage of it. It's the American way.
 

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What planet are you on? No one addressing the recharge problem?

Shell announced that they're going to install 500,000 charging stations in the next four years. That's over 340 PER DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY between now and then, if they level load the endeavor and install them 7 days a week. That is just from one company.
And right now it takes me 5 minutes to gas up.

So Shell is going to let me charge up for 3 hours and charge me $25 or $50 for the pleasure?

What happens when the powers out? Many stations today have back up generators to run the pumps.
 

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Agreed. But those problems won't be fixed in the next 5 years for me to buy a Jag.
I think that's a separate issued all together.

By the time they stop selling gas powered cars, the range on electrics will be significantly longer than today. There are limits for sure. The amount of available amps on one's breaker panel will be a limiting factor. I'm going to install a Clipper Creek American made charger that takes an 80 amp breaker, delivering sustained 64 amps to a car- even though my Mach-E will only be able to accept 48 amps, to get some future proofing.

The 64 amps that the new charger will deliver gives about 40 miles of range per hour of charging. Math tells us to get to say 500 miles of range, that would be 11.5 hours of charging at that level. Frankly, I don't want to ever drive more than 500 in a single day, which is right about the distance from my house to Las Vegas.

But the rub is the loss of range due to cold weather. Even though it's about 63* outside where I live right now, I understand some areas of the country are a little colder. If you lose 40% of your range due to temp, then add a bunch of hours to that charge time.

DC Fast Charging is a game changer, but there are a lot of limitations on how much the battery will accept at that level of power input.

It really will boil down to improving the power grid, and using utility scale batteries to level the load. There's an enormous market there, and companies will jump in to take advantage of it. It's the American way.
 

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"WHY" must fossil fuels be phased out?

Um, because the politicians say so? I just hope we'll still be able to buy gas to run our old cars. Something tells me that when I inherit my dad's 1910 Model T (See Avatar) it just won't be the same if I have to do an electric conversion on it.
 

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What planet are you on? No one addressing the recharge problem?

Shell announced that they're going to install 500,000 charging stations in the next four years. That's over 340 PER DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY between now and then, if they level load the endeavor and install them 7 days a week. That is just from one company.

Did Shell happen to mention how they were going to power those 500,000 charging stations?
 

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It’s a ways off still, but I’m curious how work vehicles that demand constantly being on will work.

Maybe I missed something about heavy duty (2500-3500) trucks being exempt, but my job requires my truck to be running almost 8 hours non-stop depending on what I’m doing.

I cant hang out in the middle of nowhere working, then get called an hour and a half away to fix something and run out of battery halfway there.

It’ll be interesting. For the foreseeable future there will still be new trucks, and a few years where those newest ICE trucks are sustainable. After that though...
 

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What planet are you on? No one addressing the recharge problem?

Shell announced that they're going to install 500,000 charging stations in the next four years. That's over 340 PER DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY between now and then, if they level load the endeavor and install them 7 days a week. That is just from one company.

LMAO! Great plan, that is not even close to being executable.

Um, because the politicians say so? I just hope we'll still be able to buy gas to run our old cars. Something tells me that when I inherit my dad's 1910 Model T (See Avatar) it just won't be the same if I have to do an electric conversion on it.

Jesus H Christ.

And here folks, is the reason we are where we are... ****ing Cucks like this.

I had a friend in HS

Obvious lie.
 

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LMAO! Great plan, that is not even close to being executable.



Jesus H Christ.

And here folks, is the reason we are where we are... ****ing Cucks like this.



Obvious lie.
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What planet are you on? No one addressing the recharge problem?

Shell announced that they're going to install 500,000 charging stations in the next four years. That's over 340 PER DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY between now and then, if they level load the endeavor and install them 7 days a week. That is just from one company.
I'm going to add to what you said. I expect technology to address the present EV deficiencies as we see them today. More chargers. Faster charging. Improved battery technology coupled with expanded ranges. Better electronics.

At this point I would never trade my fun-to-drive Genesis G70 for an EV. Zero interest. But the Green future at this point looks to be inevitable. As much as we might want to see the collapse of EVs, the momentum is to great and technology IS going to ensure their success. JMO!
 

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LMAO! Great plan, that is not even close to being executable.



Jesus H Christ.

And here folks, is the reason we are where we are... ****ing Cucks like this.



Obvious lie.

It's pretty clear you're a loser who still lives with his mom. Anything constructive to say?
 

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